heretoeternity Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Seventh Day Adventist Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 480 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 On 11/10/2017 at 4:11 AM, shiloh357 said: And that is unfortunate, given that God has revealed His Name in the Bible, and it is not "allah." Why do you, who professes to be a christian keep badmouthing the Muslims? Are they shooting up the churches in the USA? No they are not...It is crazed gun wielding psychopaths who are "American"...grow up and start learning the truth and what Jesus actually taught and stood for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, heretoeternity said: Why do you, who professes to be a christian keep badmouthing the Muslims? Are they shooting up the churches in the USA? No they are not...It is crazed gun wielding psychopaths who are "American"...grow up and start learning the truth and what Jesus actually taught and stood for. The muslims and islam is demonic idolatry. What else do you need to know? Oh, they can be saved just like a catholic if they are willing and turn to Yahweh for Yahweh's Salvation, but as long as they serve demons they are just like the rest of the world outside of Christ. Everyone of us was once like them, outside of Christ, unsaved, and dead in our sins. The Way , The Truth, and The Life is Jesus, there is no other way to the Father, nor to be born again except in Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heretoeternity Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Seventh Day Adventist Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 480 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, simplejeff said: The muslims and islam is demonic idolatry. What else do you need to know? Oh, they can be saved just like a catholic if they are willing and turn to Yahweh for Yahweh's Salvation, but as long as they serve demons they are just like the rest of the world outside of Christ. Everyone of us was once like them, outside of Christ, unsaved, and dead in our sins. The Way , The Truth, and The Life is Jesus, there is no other way to the Father, nor to be born again except in Him. If only "christians" were so devout as Muslims, it would be a far better world...but with their holier than thou attitude, they cause more problems than they solve. How about the Khazarian Jews, and they Babylonian Baal worship...guess you think thats okay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, heretoeternity said: If only "christians" were so devout as Muslims, it would be a far better world...but with their holier than thou attitude, they cause more problems than they solve. How about the Khazarian Jews, and they Babylonian Baal worship...guess you think thats okay! Keep guessing if you want to. It is better to find out from Yahweh what to do to be saved from total deception on earth. Remember those who reject Jesus, and who oppose Yahweh's Word, and who reject those HE SENDS, are judged already by HIS WORD because of their own unbelief (not because of their group they are in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heretoeternity Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Seventh Day Adventist Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 480 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, simplejeff said: Keep guessing if you want to. It is better to find out from Yahweh what to do to be saved from total deception on earth. Remember those who reject Jesus, and who oppose Yahweh's Word, and who reject those HE SENDS, are judged already by HIS WORD because of their own unbelief (not because of their group they are in) So when are you going to start following His Word? Jesus died for all mankind not only you, or the USA..but all mankind...He said in Matthew 5 "love your enemies, pray for you enemies" He did not say to ridicule, hate, denigrate or make war against them. This is re-iterated in Romans 12...do not repay evil with evil, but evil with good...and if your enemy is hungry feed him, if thirsty give him water..... There is far too much hatred in the world, and it doesn't help that professing "christians" keep feeding this hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, heretoeternity said: There is far too much hatred in the world, and it doesn't help that professing "christians" keep feeding this hatred. This part of what you say is true, perhaps 'accidentally' for you, i don't know. Perhaps you have been hurt a lot by "professing" christians. I don't know. But your only chance for life is Salvation from the Jews, as Yahweh Says - in and through JESUS , and Him only. NOT thru 'professing' 'Christians' who are not following Jesus (most all the world is not following Jesus, and the catholics have been as a group not been following Jesus ever; this is clear throughout history to all who the Father in heaven calls according to His Purpose, to whom HE REVEALS SALVATION (AS JESUS SAYS). So then, those groups you don't want to hate, don't hate them. But never trust them either. Realize they are lost and dead in sin. The only way they can achieve salvation is the same as anyone else - only through Jesus, NOT through those who are opposed to Jesus, and NOT through those who are opposed to Yahweh's Word, NOT through those who reject Jesus , and NOT through those who reject the messengers Yahweh Himself sends, Yahweh's TESTIMONY in all the countries - those whom HE HAS CALLED AND CHOSEN FOR HIMSELF for HIS OWN TESTIMONY, set apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heretoeternity Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Seventh Day Adventist Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 480 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, simplejeff said: This part of what you say is true, perhaps 'accidentally' for you, i don't know. Perhaps you have been hurt a lot by "professing" christians. I don't know. But your only chance for life is Salvation from the Jews, as Yahweh Says - in and through JESUS , and Him only. NOT thru 'professing' 'Christians' who are not following Jesus (most all the world is not following Jesus, and the catholics have been as a group not been following Jesus ever; this is clear throughout history to all who the Father in heaven calls according to His Purpose, to whom HE REVEALS SALVATION (AS JESUS SAYS). So then, those groups you don't want to hate, don't hate them. But never trust them either. Realize they are lost and dead in sin. The only way they can achieve salvation is the same as anyone else - only through Jesus, NOT through those who are opposed to Jesus, and NOT through those who are opposed to Yahweh's Word, NOT through those who reject Jesus , and NOT through those who reject the messengers Yahweh Himself sends, Yahweh's TESTIMONY in all the countries - those whom HE HAS CALLED AND CHOSEN FOR HIMSELF for HIS OWN TESTIMONY, set apart. And you are not lost and dead in sin? Are you following the teachings of Jesus I quoted..obviously not...your arrogance will not save you...but following the word of God, and teachings of Jesus will....but keep on ignoring His teachings and see how far this gets you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,043 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,788 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 7 hours ago, heretoeternity said: Sure they do..Allah is God in Arabic... Allah is the word for God in Arabic, but when spoken by a Christian and spoken by a Muslim they refer to a different entity. the word God/god is just a descriptive word expressing the relationship between two entities or things. God doesn't even have to be an entity. It can be money or some people I know things like cars or planes or even themselves in some instances.... Then there are those who worship idols which the Bible tells us is worshiping demons..... and some worship dark entities..... fallen angels, even the Devil Himself.... or one of his fellow fallen angels... When Mohammad first met the entity that started him on writing the Koran, he thought it was a demon... it seems he was right at first, but let his wife talk him into believing a lie..... and the rest is some pretty ugly history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heretoeternity Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Seventh Day Adventist Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 480 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 8 hours ago, other one said: Allah is the word for God in Arabic, but when spoken by a Christian and spoken by a Muslim they refer to a different entity. the word God/god is just a descriptive word expressing the relationship between two entities or things. God doesn't even have to be an entity. It can be money or some people I know things like cars or planes or even themselves in some instances.... Then there are those who worship idols which the Bible tells us is worshiping demons..... and some worship dark entities..... fallen angels, even the Devil Himself.... or one of his fellow fallen angels... When Mohammad first met the entity that started him on writing the Koran, he thought it was a demon... it seems he was right at first, but let his wife talk him into believing a lie..... and the rest is some pretty ugly history. You were there right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiChristian Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 17 hours ago, ytLiJC said: on the one hand, islam was a kind of union between edom and moab - the edomites were jews that seceded from israel, while the moabites were the clerics and worshipers of the spiritual/religious tradition of persia, which is why part of the wisdom and the spiritual terminology in the quran seems typical of the persian tradition - for example, the doctrine of jinn on the other hand, muhammad, albeit a prophet of edom and moab, tried to join people of those two worlds as much as possible with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob so it's hard to say, and nevertheless there was definitely some approach to the true God; however, we can work for overall salvation in the One Who is really the true Lord God, which is the best thing, moreover, we anyway have to Blessings Yet again you totally fail to answer the question. It seems you prefer monologs rather than dialogs. I give up with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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