Fidei Defensor Posted September 25, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 165 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 2,607 Days Won: 15 Joined: 04/29/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 25, 2017 John and Charles Wesley were two brothers in the 18th century who had major mark on Christian History. Sons of Susanna Wesley, John and Charles both were trained rigorously in the Bible and God's Law. When they became older, both John and Charles went to college and started a club on campus that observed practices of hours of prayer, scripture reading, and strict spiritual disciplines. Because of heir ascetic practices, John and Charles' club became known on campus as "The Methodists" which would be foundations for the Methodist Church which is 30-60 Million strong. John and Charles then perceiving they should take the evangelion (Gospel) to the Americas, set sail for Northern America. Their success was minimal, and because of scandal, Charles Wesley left for England, and John soon followed, nearly perishing on a ship in a storm. John on the turbulent seas discovered a sect of Christians known as Moravian Brethren, and from studies with them discovered Salvation by Grace (Ephesians 2:8-9). From there John became involved in the First Great Awakening, going to farmers in the fields and preaching the gospel. Charles in maintime was creating hymns (thousands) and the two brothers led Europe into revival. Later in life John Wesley's passion turned back to Angelican Church, his hopes like Luther late in life was to reform it. Welcome to Wesley Brothers! Feel free to talk about their influence, long journey through three church systems, and all the took place around their lives. Charles Wesley John Wesley 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted October 29, 2017 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 207 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted October 29, 2017 And how will they proclaim unless they are sent? As it is written: "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news of peace, who bring good news of good things." Romans 10:15 (New Heart English Bible) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruthSeeker199 Posted October 29, 2017 Group: Seeker Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 6 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 29, 2017 You guys check out the part of church history when the Catholic Church was killing everyone? ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted October 29, 2017 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 207 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 hour ago, TruthSeeker199 said: You guys check out the part of church history when the Catholic Church was killing everyone? ? Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 2 Timothy 3:12 Papal Persecutions Thus far our history of persecution has been confined principally to the pagan world. We come now to a period when persecution, under the guise of Christianity, committed more enormities than ever disgraced the annals of paganism. Disregarding the maxims and the spirit of the Gospel, the papal Church, arming herself with the power of the sword, vexed the Church of God and wasted it for several centuries, a period most appropriately termed in history, the “dark ages.” The kings of the earth, gave their power to the “Beast,” and submitted to be trodden on by the miserable vermin that often filled the papal chair, as in the case of Henry, emperor of Germany. The storm of papal persecution first burst upon the Waldenses in France. http://www.worthychristianlibrary.com/john-foxe/foxes-book-martyrs/chapter-4/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted November 2, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2017 To be fair there were Protestants who were guilty of killing Catholics and even other Protestants. The Anabaptists were heavily persecuted by other Protestants. Now That is some Irony right there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabaptism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted November 3, 2017 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 207 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted November 3, 2017 On 11/1/2017 at 11:17 PM, Jude1:3 said: To be fair there were Protestants who were guilty of killing Catholics and even other Protestants. The Anabaptists were heavily persecuted by other Protestants. Now That is some Irony right there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabaptism Amen Beloved You Are Spot On Deliver me, O my God, out of the hand of the wicked, out of the hand of the unrighteous and cruel man. Psalms 71:4 My friend, Mike Bentley, an Evangelical Baptist, was once jailed in Greece for passing out pamphlets which detailed New Testament verses describing how to receive Jesus as Savior, in Greek. When his release was secured (it was not easy but Michael had a “friend,” a Christian, who had a “friend”...), he told the Greek police, “It was only Christian literature.” They told him, “Don’t ever do that again.” Apparently, the Orthodox fear the real Jesus of the New Testament; otherwise, such anti-missionary laws would not exist. Michael’s high-ranking friend told him, “If I had not insisted, they would have thrown the key away and no one would have ever known what had happened to you.” So much for the Greek Orthodox “monopoly” on what is Christian. It speaks for itself. In our opinion, it is a head philosophy of investigation and ceremony, rather than a secure faith of the heart based on Jesus and the New Testament! http://ramsheadpress.com/messiah/ch10.html Love, Your Brother Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted November 3, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 3, 2017 8 hours ago, FresnoJoe said: So much for the Greek Orthodox “monopoly” on what is Christian. It speaks for itself. In our opinion, it is a head philosophy of investigation and ceremony, rather than a secure faith of the heart based on Jesus and the New Testament! I doubt very seriously that the "Authorities" that put him in jail were devout "Orthodox Christians". I have a hard time imagining some sweet old granny trying to get someone put into jail over passing out pamphlets about Jesus Christ. It's sickening to think about what "Supposed" Christians have done to other Christians in history. I just think to my self, "Man, were any of these people even real Christians back in the day ? " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted November 3, 2017 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 207 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Amen~! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Penta Posted February 10, 2018 Group: Newbie Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 1 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/10/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2018 The Wesley brothers topic was good reading, however, as a new person to this website and subtopic, I'm disappointed in such judgmental attitudes and writings rather than responses being educational or informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted July 23, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 165 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 2,607 Days Won: 15 Joined: 04/29/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 10/28/2017 at 11:23 PM, TruthSeeker199 said: You guys check out the part of church history when the Catholic Church was killing everyone? ? You mean Bloody Mary, The Inquisitions and The St. Bartholomew Day Massacre? Feel free to start a topic on them but let us remember Protestants have done The English Civil War (Oliver Cromwell), The Salem Witch Trials, and Papist purges. To quote a song by King & Country, “O/ O/ God forgive us..” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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