Isaiahchapter59 Posted September 29, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 9 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/29/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 29, 2017 Can you at least make a state turn FULLY Christian. Is there an organization that all churches can do in a certain state to make EVERYONE turn Christian? Like sharing the gospel and spreading the news about Christ. What about to school kids and teenagers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 29, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 29, 2017 20 minutes ago, Isaiahchapter59 said: Can you at least make a state turn FULLY Christian. Is there an organization that all churches can do in a certain state to make EVERYONE turn Christian? Like sharing the gospel and spreading the news about Christ. What about to school kids and teenagers? Nope it will not happen. When Christ comes back the earth will be totally Christian for awhile anyway in the millennium until some of the off spring turn against God. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravindran Posted September 29, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 496 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 398 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/18/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted September 29, 2017 We can never make anyone Christian. We cannot make even a single person Christian through any level of persuasion. Salvation is a work of Holy Spirit. We simply carry the good news. To answer your question, I don't think it will ever happen. As said above, would happen for a while during millennial reign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiahchapter59 Posted September 29, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 9 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/29/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 Wait is millennial another generation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted September 29, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.26 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Isaiahchapter59 said: Wait is millennial another generation? It is the 1000 year reign of Christ after His return, during which Satan will be bound in the bottomless pit. Revelation 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted September 30, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 26 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,602 Content Per Day: 4.02 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 30, 2017 Great idea Isiah-59. I am certain our Lord feels just as you have expressed. However, we have this little problem of free-will to contend with. The Lord also desires all his children to be Saved, Forgiven, Purified and with Him eternally. He wants us to choose Life, not death. But He is Justice and Mercy in perfect balance, so can not make the choice for us. He chose to Limit his own power in this way to give us the RIGHT to choose. He could have made us any way He wished, but in His Wisdom and Goodness He decided to do it this way. His Ways are really beyond our complete understanding, however He gave us the tools to use and minds to decide how to use those tools. That is why He wants us to spread His Gospel of Good News to give others that chance too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 30, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,875 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,624 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 30, 2017 First of all, #1 our "Government" has never been a Christian government. this nation was made great by citizens that were Christian. Have we really become a heathen nation? If you look at our national main stream media one would think so.... about all they report on is the minority heathens that stir up trouble for us.... But the citizenry as a whole..... look at southern Texas and Florida...... I say that we are still a Christian nation at heart in our citizenry. The problem is that these days we don't demand it in government as our grandfathers did. I say that down on the individual level we are still mostly a Christian nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted October 2, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 165 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 1.58 Reputation: 2,607 Days Won: 15 Joined: 04/29/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 2, 2017 Preterism and turning a nation Christian en masse doesn't work as it did in Middle Ages with The Franks or with the Byzantines when Constantine the Great converted. It takes the Holy Spirit and revival (repentence and renewed vigor). As for America's place in Church History it depends if you believe Jesus is returning soon, and that we are in the end times or that you believe He is delaying His Coming (2 Peter 3:3-15). I am of the view Jesus is coming soon and that boads ill for the Coastlines (Americas): "I tell you, he will grant justice to them quickly! But when the Son of Man returns, how many will he find on the earth who have faith?" -Luke 18:8✝️ "This means that God’s holy people must endure persecution patiently, obeying his commands and maintaining their faith in Jesus.And I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this down: Blessed are those who die in the Lord from now on. Yes, says the Spirit, they are blessed indeed, for they will rest from their hard work; for their good deeds follow them!”-Revelation 14:12-13✝️ "Behold, I will bring them from the north country and gather them from the farthest parts of the earth, among them the blind and the lame, the pregnant woman and she who is in labor, together; a great company, they shall return here." -Jeremiah 31:8✝️ "At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other,And many false prophets will appear and will deceive many people.And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.ut the one who stands firm to the end will be saved." -Matthew 24:10-14✝️ "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons." -1 Timothy 4:1✝️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted October 8, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 897 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,621 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 5,821 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted October 8, 2017 First off, America was only ever a nation OF Christians / Christian based law and order. One never had to be a Christian to be an American. But our founding fathers wisely chartered America's course on a deliberately Christian basis of law and order. How could God NOT bless America? America did what God told us to do. Conversely, how could God not judge America for the 180° reversal in morals, beliefs, ethics? IMHO... Trump's election was a last chance for America. Trouble is... It has become ONLY a physical event. Make America great again (physically, financially, etc.). Setting aside the actual quote to get at the point made: De Toqueville said America is great because America is good. If America ceases to be good America will cease to be great. What made America good was Christian principles basis for law and order. Not forced or even coerced belief. But the free and open exercise of one's faith in society which the founding fathers knew and believed faith in Christ would win out. Otherwise it would be coerced and not genuine faith. Recent inabilities of the President to pass legislation as ridiculously obvious as the repeal of Obama care and so on (including the rapid procession of hurricanes) tells me that God is trying to get all of us off the secular based misuse of this last chance for America. At the very least we need to begin prayer vigils. Ah, but the old divide and conquer tactics of the evil one has us bickering over the differences between us (based on our following the traditions of men that nullify the word of God). So... I personally don't have high hopes. Some indications seem positive like the stock market... But I don't hear about wage increases or career positions being created (just "jobs"). The average American household has to have two incomes to make one living. While the filthy rich parlay their trillions by bilking the rest of their hard earned money and even their ability to earn a living. Prop 13 in California years ago was an attempt to lower property taxes to benefit owners and tenants with lower rent and increased remodeling and repair of properties. But all that happened was the owners pocketed the increase. We are banking unfortunately on humanity rather than Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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