Sinbad Posted October 5, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 42 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/09/1965 Share Posted October 5, 2017 OK folks I don't as yet have a bible however as member had recommended I went on line Jesus was tempted by the devil my question would be is temptation a sin An example I found was if a husband lusted after another woman he has already committed adultery in his heart So is temptation the sin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimes Posted October 5, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 26 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,734 Content Per Day: 2.80 Reputation: 8,345 Days Won: 21 Joined: 08/29/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 5, 2017 Being tempted to sin alone is not sin, it’s when we give in to the temptation that we sin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad Posted October 5, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 42 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/09/1965 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 2 hours ago, TheAimes said: Being tempted to sin alone is not sin, it’s when we give in to the temptation that we sin. But if the sin is in your thoughts or temptation is it a sin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted October 6, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,204 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,792 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted October 6, 2017 6 hours ago, Sinbad said: But if the sin is in your thoughts or temptation is it a sin Temptation is not sin. But it can lead to it. Or not. Depends on our choice, to obey and stop, or disobey and continue. It's quite simple. I get tempted all day long in my mind mostly. At some point I may realize what I'm thinking will lead to a sin, so I simply confess "that's sin" and move on. I'm programming my mind with good data, truth. The thought becomes a sin (for me) when I ignore the good data stored in my heart/mind, and continue to think sinful thoughts. It's when the sinful thought is conceived, that I commit a sin. Any thought, deed or action. When I linger on a sinful thought, the good data, scripture, then comes into play. I'll confess it as sin, and move on. I don't obsess on it. After mentally confessing something multiple times, I begin to get the picture. There is pleasure in sin. Confessing right away that it is sin, chips away the pleasure..... (Creates a "God presence" reminding me He's right beside me) 1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. There is a secondary benefit to confessing, the cleansing. Jas 1:13-15; Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted October 15, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 940 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,413 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 8,958 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) On 10/5/2017 at 5:58 PM, Sinbad said: But if the sin is in your thoughts or temptation is it a sin Hi and welcome, Let me be brief and blunt then give rationale afterward. YES, YES, YES! It is sinful. It is sin. Now go try to not sin- can't hardly be done can it? Some say well it's okay to see but not to look a second time. Really? Now isn't that silly, I get one peek How many one peeks a day do I get? Here is the issue at hand- every person is sin, has sin, is sinful, anyway you want to state it each and every person fails the standard of God. No exceptions to be found except possibly of two men in all of time. God will not, can not abide sin nor imperfection. So where does that leave us that are sin in our very nature? It leaves us with an impossible to reconcile problem, for no matter how we recover the sin has occurred it cannot be erased it cannot be atoned for because any atonement comes from a flawed source us. Fortunately God loves his creation including us enough to in His awesome wisdom and presence solve and resolve the impossible. He took our sin upon Himself, paid the fullest price of sin which is death and eternal separation from God. Thus He personally paid in full for the sin of all those He will save to himself for eternal life with Him. How? He sent His son to become fully man as well as already being fully God. He lived perfection as a man and then was sacrificed on the cross willingly sacrificed that many might be saved from eternal death and separation from God. Are there conditions to be met by each person in addition are all saved- many questions with many takes of answers and great debate among the saved. But in general it seems the Bible informs us of some common basics. Salvation is from God alone, we do not earn salvation. I suggest and encourage you, that if you find a call or feeling, encourage it by asking God to show you ask for the Holy Spirit to show you Jesus. Really ask God directly. Many a saint will come along side of you will pray for you and help explain the Trinity, salvation, etc. But the basic you must end up with is having the Holy Spirit, otherwise you will not have ability to understand what is spiritually discerned. May God lead you to him even now Amen. Enough for now take care. Edited October 15, 2017 by Neighbor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad Posted October 15, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 42 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/09/1965 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 Hi neighbour You answered a lot of questions there thank you Sinbad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted October 15, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2017 On 10/5/2017 at 2:58 PM, Sinbad said: But if the sin is in your thoughts or temptation is it a sin Our thoughts are not necessarily sinful. God knows our minds are weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted October 15, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.40 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted October 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, missmuffet said: Our thoughts are not necessarily sinful. God knows our minds are weak. Everyone will be tempted. we have wicked flesh THUS evil pops in our mind. WHEN once it does, what we do with it IS THEN ON US , if we have the SPIRIT it will alarm us immediately when the temptation hits, KILL the lust the temptation before it becomes SIN . do not entertain the thought . can this be done. YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT CAN. FOR IT IS GOD IN US , IF WE HAVE THE SPIRIT, WORKING THAT WHICH IS WELL PLEASING IN HIS SIGHT. kill it in thought mode it wont be acted out . the sin that sins is our own flesh, but what we do with the evil thought when once it appears, NOW THAT IS ON US. KILL IT by the power of Christ . For he took our sins unto himself and bore our punishments on the tree that we BEING DEAD to SIN should , SHOULD LIVE UNTO . . ready for it .................RIGHTEOUSNESS. JESUS DID COME to set the captives free. and whom we serve is our master. follow the spirit and deny the flesh. amen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted October 15, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, frienduff thaylorde said: Everyone will be tempted. we have wicked flesh THUS evil pops in our mind. WHEN once it does, what we do with it IS THEN ON US , if we have the SPIRIT it will alarm us immediately when the temptation hits, KILL the lust the temptation before it becomes SIN . do not entertain the thought . can this be done. YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT CAN. FOR IT IS GOD IN US , IF WE HAVE THE SPIRIT, WORKING THAT WHICH IS WELL PLEASING IN HIS SIGHT. kill it in thought mode it wont be acted out . the sin that sins is our own flesh, but what we do with the evil thought when once it appears, NOW THAT IS ON US. KILL IT by the power of Christ . For he took our sins unto himself and bore our punishments on the tree that we BEING DEAD to SIN should , SHOULD LIVE UNTO . . ready for it .................RIGHTEOUSNESS. JESUS DID COME to set the captives free. and whom we serve is our master. follow the spirit and deny the flesh. amen. Yes, Christianity is full of doubt and temptation but if we approach God on these issues He will protect us if we ask Him. And we need to always keep on our Armor of God. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagain2011 Posted October 16, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 82 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 602 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 233 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/15/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted October 16, 2017 To be tempted is not a sin. To linger and contemplate on it is a sin. I have a reoccurring obsessive sin. The only way to not think about it is to literally have my bible in my face all.day.long. I have had to carry around scripture with me and read it throughout the day. It's so important to keep thoughts pure because actions always follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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