BK1110 Posted October 13, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6,828 Content Per Day: 2.43 Reputation: 9,555 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/18/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/10/1986 Share Posted October 13, 2017 5 hours ago, Josah said: Why does the Bible use serpents in this example? The serpent in the garden of Eve was WISE. How was the serpent in the garden of Eve WISE? The serpent was WISE through its DECEPTION. The serpent did not lie, the serpent deceived, and deception always has a truth in it. Wouldn't you agree that to be able to deceive is to be wise? In other words, wouldn't you say that only a wise thing could make someone think that a certain thing is true when it is not true, but at the same time, provide a truth, only, the truth that is uttered takes the form of another meaning for that other person? Deceiving someone is an action. Being wise is just being something, it's about how you choose to use it. The serpent used his wisdom to deceive, but that doesn't mean it was wise for him to deceive, or that deception is wisdom itself. You can use a gun to hunt for food to keep your family from dying, or you can use it to shoot and kill your family. And he most certainly did lie, in Genesis 3:4 "But the serpent said to the woman, 'You will not surely die.'" The wages if sin is death. Adam and Eve sinned, and indeed they died; physically and spiritually, and so have we all since then. Yes, being able to deceive requires a level of wisdom, in a way at least. But if deception is a sin, it's not very wise to use what wisdom you have to deceive people and pile more sin on your heart. But follow your own train of logic; to commit a murder in which you aren't caught or implicated would take a great amount of wisdom, wouldn't it? So to be able to get away with murder is to be wise, yes? But does that make it okay to murder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted October 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.73 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 13, 2017 Let us not forget that Rahab is in the "Faith Hall of Fame" and her claim to fame was deceiving to save the lives of the Jewish spies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Running Gator said: Let us not forget that Rahab is in the "Faith Hall of Fame" and her claim to fame was deceiving to save the lives of the Jewish spies. The Bible was not praising her act of deception. The Bible never condones that act. It uses her as an example of faith rooted in action, without condoning or praising the specific act. She was no more affirmed for her deception than she was for being a harlot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted October 13, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 40,789 Content Per Day: 7.95 Reputation: 21,262 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted October 13, 2017 another home run by the Shiloh .... Gator pay attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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