frienduff thaylorde Posted October 14, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted October 14, 2017 2 hours ago, missmuffet said: The Bible tells us that those in hell will be tortured and experience God's wrath and judgment for an eternity. That is forever and ever. That means it will never end. Just like the believers will be with the Lord forever and ever....never ending. And that is all I need know. thus we preach the only way out of that end. JESUS. not budda nor the sin loving all inclusive mindset that says gay marriage is love and they know Jesus too. what a crock of a lie that is. if we love them we warn them. if we hate them we don't. but if we love them not then the LOVE of GOD is not in us,which means we know Him not. SO armour up folks, its exhortation time in the house. warn any believer in any error to repent asap or risk it all. its that serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted October 14, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 hour ago, frienduff thaylorde said: And that is all I need know. thus we preach the only way out of that end. JESUS. not budda nor the sin loving all inclusive mindset that says gay marriage is love and they know Jesus too. what a crock of a lie that is. if we love them we warn them. if we hate them we don't. but if we love them not then the LOVE of GOD is not in us,which means we know Him not. SO armour up folks, its exhortation time in the house. warn any believer in any error to repent asap or risk it all. its that serious. If a person believes in " annihilation" they believe that the soul which has gone to hell will be destroyed. That is not biblical. The soul will never be destroyed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted October 14, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 904 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,642 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,830 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted October 14, 2017 14 hours ago, Josah said: Are people being tortured in hell right now or are the souls awaiting the day of judgment? The Bible is clear (whichever one you call "hell") that unbelievers in Jesus Christ go to the place described in Luke 16:19-31 in death awaiting to be resurrected to judgment (which will consist IMHO of simply every knee bowing to Jesus and confessing him LORD and then being thrown into the lake of fire according to Revelation 20). Death and HADES will be thrown into the lake of fire. Death and Hades = Hell Lake of Fire = Hell jury is still out on that as far as I am concerned. Both are a place of suffering, darkness, burning, for all eternity and are to be avoided at all cost. The ONLY price paid to actually do so is the shed blood of the Lamb of God and faith in him. All else is counterfeit and smelling of sulfur. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted October 14, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted October 14, 2017 2 hours ago, missmuffet said: If a person believes in " annihilation" they believe that the soul which has gone to hell will be destroyed. That is not biblical. The soul will never be destroyed. Where their worm dies not and the fire IS NEVER quenched. gotta say what the bible says. So I cant argue with ya on that point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted October 14, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 hour ago, JohnD said: The Bible is clear (whichever one you call "hell") that unbelievers in Jesus Christ go to the place described in Luke 16:19-31 in death awaiting to be resurrected to judgment (which will consist IMHO of simply every knee bowing to Jesus and confessing him LORD and then being thrown into the lake of fire according to Revelation 20). Death and HADES will be thrown into the lake of fire. Death and Hades = Hell Lake of Fire = Hell jury is still out on that as far as I am concerned. Both are a place of suffering, darkness, burning, for all eternity and are to be avoided at all cost. The ONLY price paid to actually do so is the shed blood of the Lamb of God and faith in him. All else is counterfeit and smelling of sulfur. the word was interchangeable in English. but real hell vesus lake of fire is not the same. and death and hell were delivered into the LAKE OF FIRE. they are not the same. but its not a topic I aruge over . I focus on the wicked sin lies most are buying and warn out repent church , repent , be restored follow ON LY Christ and notthe dung pile satanic all inclusive interfaith . That is because I don't want any to end up in HELL or LAKE OF FIRE> anyway be blessed now , ya hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted October 14, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted October 14, 2017 2 hours ago, missmuffet said: If a person believes in " annihilation" they believe that the soul which has gone to hell will be destroyed. That is not biblical. The soul will never be destroyed. And if anyone believes gay marriage is love they end up their. Lest they repent. we need to really be a warning some souls in them churches . Cause lots of wolves in wool have deceived many . and their end will be the lake of fire, lest they repent and come to Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted October 14, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I luv ya miss muffett. you be blessed and praise the Lord , and all peoples prase the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted October 15, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2017 33 minutes ago, Yowm said: Right now they are in hell/hades ..then the judgment .. then the Lake of Fire forever and ever. Yes, and that is very, very sad if you really wrap your brain around it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuftWaffle Posted October 25, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 820 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 261 Days Won: 7 Joined: 01/09/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted October 25, 2017 On 10/14/2017 at 11:19 PM, missmuffet said: If a person believes in " annihilation" they believe that the soul which has gone to hell will be destroyed. That is not biblical. The soul will never be destroyed. This sort of thing occurs when one bases what's "biblical" on popular doctrine instead of what the bible actually says. The idea that souls cannot be destroyed has made it's way into Christianity through church fathers like Tertullian and Augustine incorporating the teachings of Plato into their theology. Plato taught the immortality of souls, and that souls therefore cannot be destroyed and these Platonistic ideas became part of mainstream Christianity. Most people believe the Bible teaches it because theologians repeat these ideas, but the bible, teaches the exact opposite: Mat 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. Mat_7:13 "Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. Php 3:19 Their end is destruction, their god is their belly, and they glory in their shame, with minds set on earthly things. Th 5:2-3 For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, "There is peace and security," then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 2Th_1:9 They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might. Psa_55:23 But you, O God, will cast them down into the pit of destruction; men of blood and treachery shall not live out half their days. But I will trust in you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMatrixHasU71 Posted October 25, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,573 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 723 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 25, 2017 On 10/14/2017 at 4:53 AM, Josah said: Are people being tortured in hell right now or are the souls awaiting the day of judgment? No they are not, not just yet. They are being held in sheol, that compartment that is still active and meant for the damned as the other side, Paradise, was emptied out when Christ rose. They will not be consigned to the law of fire till the end of the 1000 year reign of Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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