Shilohsfoal Posted October 25, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 51 minutes ago, Last Daze said: You tell me. Who specifically is the "you" that Jesus is addressing in this passage: So that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Matthew 23:35 You used this passage in support of your Jerusalem / Babylon conflation. So is the you in the above passage Jerusalem? http://biblehub.com/matthew/23-37.htm Two verses after,Jesus calls the "you" by the name Jerusalem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Is Jesus Coming? Posted October 25, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 25, 2017 15 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: There is not such thing as a 7 year tribulation in the bible.The saints in Israel are persecuted and rejected and murderd for 3 1/2 years.Not 7. Daniel 9:27 ► Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted October 25, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said: Daniel 9:27 ► Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him." Nothing there about tribulation.It doesn't even mention the saints. You also don't even know what kind of a deal this dealmaker will make with the Israeli goverment. All we are told is the saints in Israel are given into his hand for three and a half years.No more. http://biblehub.com/daniel/7-25.htm Edited October 25, 2017 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Is Jesus Coming? Posted October 25, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 25, 2017 41 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: Nothing there about tribulation.It doesn't even mention the saints. You also don't even know what kind of a deal this dealmaker will make with the Israeli goverment. All we are told is the saints in Israel are given into his hand for three and a half years.No more. http://biblehub.com/daniel/7-25.htm Daneiel 12 11“From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted October 25, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,011 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted October 25, 2017 12 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: http://biblehub.com/matthew/23-37.htm Two verses after,Jesus calls the "you" by the name Jerusalem. Okay, and since we know that cities don't actually kill people, who specifically is He referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted October 25, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 3 hours ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said: Daneiel 12 11“From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days. I agree.The gentiles shall tread Jerusalem under foot 42 months.The orthodox jew who are protesting the conscription should be pleased to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Is Jesus Coming? Posted October 26, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 26, 2017 18 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: I agree.The gentiles shall tread Jerusalem under foot 42 months.The orthodox jew who are protesting the conscription should be pleased to say the least. Daniel 9:27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him." Daniel 12:11-12 11“From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days. In the MIDDLE of the 7 he will put an end to sacrificing and from the time this is done to the abomination is set up there will be 1290 days (43 months or 3 years and 7 months). Why do you not think this is 7 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted October 26, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said: Daniel 9:27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him." Daniel 12:11-12 11“From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days. In the MIDDLE of the 7 he will put an end to sacrificing and from the time this is done to the abomination is set up there will be 1290 days (43 months or 3 years and 7 months). Why do you not think this is 7 years? Because there are only 1290 from the time the king of the north gives the Israeli government the host which stop the daily sacrifice to the abomination that causes desolation. When that second beast arrives in Jerusalem is when these saints begin to die. http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-33.htm As Jesus preaches the gospel for three and a half years so will the saints go throughout Israel preaching the gospel and being persecuted for it.These are the ones who do not worship the beast or recieve his mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Is Jesus Coming? Posted October 26, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said: Because there are only 1290 from the time the king of the north gives the Israeli government the host which stop the daily sacrifice to the abomination that causes desolation. When that second beast arrives in Jerusalem is when these saints begin to die. http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-33.htm As Jesus preaches the gospel for three and a half years so will the saints go throughout Israel preaching the gospel and being persecuted or it.These are the ones who do not worship the beast or recieve his mark. Doesn't make sense. How does that relate to those verses? (Daniel 11 - up to verse 35 has already been fulfilled. verse 36 onwards is yet to be fulfilled.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted October 26, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said: Doesn't make sense. How does that relate to those verses? (Daniel 11 - up to verse 35 has already been fulfilled. verse 36 onwards is yet to be fulfilled.) This chapter was written as the Jews were returning from exile. The propecies in this chapter only started being fulfilled since the Jews have been returning from exile.This time. We have not arrived to verse 35 yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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