When Is Jesus Coming? Posted October 26, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 26, 2017 And will He return on the 6000th year? You may have seen this theory before but whether you have or haven't what do you think? The Bible dates the earth to nearly 6000 years old (At least the Masoretic (Protestant) text does)), which means Jesus could have died (and resurrected) on the 4000th year. If Jesus does return on the 6000th year to reign for 1000 years, this would complete a 7000 years time frame. There are various verses that allude to this plan and while not date setting, as this about the year and not the day or hour, it could be worth considering. Here are some of those verses: Revelation 20:4 They had not worshipped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Matthew 12:8 For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath. 2 Peter 3:8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the LORD a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day Psalm 90:4 A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night. So here you can see how the Biblical week of 6 days of work (man's struggle) and a day to rest (The Millennium reign) is reflected in the 7000 year plan. There are also many allusions throughout the Bible to Jesus returning on the third day (The third millennium after his death): Luke 13:32 And he said unto them, “Go ye and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out demons, and I do cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I shall be perfected”. Hosea 6:2 After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence. There are many other allusions throughout the Bible to this six thousand year process, such as when Jacob took care of Laban’s sheep and goats for six years and set the healthy flocks free in the seventh year. Another time this prophetic day terminology is used is in these verses: John 4:35-41 35 Don’t you have a saying, ‘It’s still four months until harvest’? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest. 36 Even now the one who reaps draws a wage and harvests a crop for eternal life, so that the sower and the reaper may be glad together. 37 Thus the saying ‘One sows and another reaps’ is true. 38 I sent you to reap what you have not worked for. Others have done the hard work, and you have reaped the benefits of their labour.” 39 Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, “He told me everything I ever did.” 40 So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days. 41 And because of his words many more became believers. Just as Jesus was with the Samaritans for two days, He will be with the Gentiles for two thousand years and if six thousand years is equated to twelve months it would mean that four months equates to two thousand years, just as Jesus said; “It’s still four months until harvest!” Jesus also met the Samaritan woman at the 6th hour and she was on her 6th husband but she was about to become a believer in the Messiah; her 7th husband at the 7th hour. There are many more like this. Also some Christians believe that the last generation will see the end times as this verse alludes to: Mathew 24:34 “Truly I say to you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.” And in Psalms we read that a generation can last eighty years: Psalm 90:10 Our days may come to seventy years, or eighty, if our strength endures; yet the best of them are but trouble and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away. Israel finally became an independent nation again after the Israeli War for Independence which lasted from 15 May 1948 to 20 July 1949, a war that lasted nine months and which is alluded to in this verse: Isaiah 66:8 Yet no sooner is Zion in labour than she gives birth to her children. 80 years from 1949 is 2029 which is about 2000 years from Jesus' death. But what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted October 26, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) In Matthew 24:34 Jesus speaks of the time frame of the generation of humanity from the Noahic flood forward And 1948 is the time of Israel's regathering in part .... the 70th week is still future and this period is still pending with no dating given in scripture The Lord has not revealed the dating of His return Edited October 26, 2017 by Daniel 11:36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keras Posted October 26, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,686 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 301 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/31/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/07/1941 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) The 7000 year Plan of God for mankind is not a theory, but a fact. Note that the 4000 year mark, is the commencement of Jesus' Ministry on earth: first physically, then Spiritually. Matthew 28:29 7000 years from the Creation to the Completion of Mankind: Genesis 1:27 Adam was created in 3970.5 BCE [subtracted back from 586 BC] Gen 5:3 Seth +130, Gen 5:6 Enoch +105, Gen 5:9 Kenan +90, Gen 5:12 Mahalalel +70, Gen 5:15 Jared +65, Gen 5:18 Enoch +162, Gen 5:21 Methuselah +65, Gen 5:25 Lamech +187, Gen 5:28 Noah+182, Gen 6:7 The Flood came when Noah was +600, Gen 11:10 Our year 2314.5 BCE Arpachshad +2 - born to Shem after the flood. Gen 11:12 Selah +35, Gen 11:14 Heber +30, Gen 11:16 Peleg +34, Gen 11:18 Reu +30, Gen 11:20 Serug +32, Gen 11:22 Nahor +30 , Gen 11:24 Terah +29, Gen 11:26 Abram +70, Abram was +52 when God called him and they left Ur. Our year 1970.5 BCE He lived in Haran for 23 years, then went to Canaan at age 75. Genesis 12:4 Total years so far = 2000 Gen 17:1, Abraham was 99 when the Covenant was made with God. +47 Genesis 17:1-8 Galatians 3:17 Paul states that the Law was given +430 after the Covenant. Total years elapsed until the Exodus – 2477, in our year 1493.5 BCE. [Many ancient records say Comet Typhon passed close the earth at that time. It was the cause of many of the disasters in Egypt.] 1 Kings 6:1 The Temple construction starts, in the 4th year of King Solomon +480 since the Torah was given at the Exodus.. 1 Kings 11:42 Solomon 40 minus 4 = +36, 1 Kings 14:21 Rehoboam +17, 1 Kings 15:2 Abijah +3, 2 Chron 16:13 Asa +41, 1 Kings 22:42 Jehoshaphat +25, 2 Kings 8:17 Jehoram +8, 2 Kings 8:26 Ahaziah +1, 2 Kings 11:1-3 Athaliah +6, 2 Kings 12:1-3 Joash +40, 2 Kings 14:1-2 Amaziah +29, 2 Kings 15:1-2 Azariah +52, 2 Kings 15:32 Jotham +16, 2 Kings 16:1-2 Ahaz +16, 2 Kings 18:1-2 Hezekiah +29, 2 Kings 21:1 Manasseh +55, 2 Kings 21:19 Amon +2, 2 Kings 22:1-2 Josiah +31, 2 Kings 22:31 Jehoahaz +3mths, 2 Kings 23:31 Jehoiakim +11, 2 Kings 24:8 Jehoichin +3mths, 2 Kings 24:18 Zedekiah +11, who ruled until the Babylonian captivity in our year 586 BCE. Total elapsed years to the first exile of Judah = 3386.5 586 BCE + 613.5 years + 2 comes to 29.5 CE, the date of Jesus’ baptism. Luke 3:1 Plus 2 to include the total number of elapsed years, as our calendar system counts years from their commencement. 3386.5 + 613.5 = 4000 years. July 2017.5 CE - 29.5 CE = 1988 years since the commencement of Jesus’ Ministry. 1988 + 4000 = 5988 years, is where we are now. 5988 + 12 = 6000 years 2017.5 CE + 12 = 2029.5 CE Exactly 2000 years to the end of the present Church age. 4000 since Abraham, 6000 since Adam. Next comes the 1000 year reign of Jesus. 7000 years is God’s decreed time for mankind. Those who have been found worthy will go into Eternity with God. Revelation 22:1-5 47 Bible verses Edited October 26, 2017 by Keras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted October 26, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,605 Content Per Day: 3.98 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 26, 2017 Peace: Am I understanding that we have 12 years left? How does this line up with the Hebrew calendar and what years are elapsed so far in their reckoning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted October 26, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 26, 2017 I came to this understanding many years ago.It made since why Jesus rose on the third day.That's when he would resurrect his body(his church).After 2000 years would be the Sabbath. Would you pull your donkey out of a ditch on the Sabbath day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted October 26, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.24 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted October 26, 2017 This is from a thread that was going last Spring. On 2/21/2017 at 7:35 AM, OneLight said: There is a move called The End of the Harvest that basically explains this theology. Has anyone seen it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keras Posted October 26, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,686 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 301 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/31/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/07/1941 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Justin Adams said: Am I understanding that we have 12 years left? How does this line up with the Hebrew calendar and what years are elapsed so far in their reckoning? Yes. 12/13 years for all that must happen before Jesus Returns. Possible, but all that is prophesied has to to start very soon. Who cares what the Jews do with their calendar? It is a known fact, that they messed the calendar around in the Middle Ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Is Jesus Coming? Posted October 27, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 13 hours ago, Justin Adams said: Peace: Am I understanding that we have 12 years left? How does this line up with the Hebrew calendar and what years are elapsed so far in their reckoning? https://guidetothebible.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/guide_v2017calendar_year5988_2018.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Is Jesus Coming? Posted October 27, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 14 hours ago, Keras said: The 7000 year Plan of God for mankind is not a theory, but a fact. Note that the 4000 year mark, is the commencement of Jesus' Ministry on earth: first physically, then Spiritually. Matthew 28:29 7000 years from the Creation to the Completion of Mankind: Genesis 1:27 Adam was created in 3970.5 BCE [subtracted back from 586 BC] Gen 5:3 Seth +130, Gen 5:6 Enoch +105, Gen 5:9 Kenan +90, Gen 5:12 Mahalalel +70, Gen 5:15 Jared +65, Gen 5:18 Enoch +162, Gen 5:21 Methuselah +65, Gen 5:25 Lamech +187, Gen 5:28 Noah+182, Gen 6:7 The Flood came when Noah was +600, Gen 11:10 Our year 2314.5 BCE Arpachshad +2 - born to Shem after the flood. Gen 11:12 Selah +35, Gen 11:14 Heber +30, Gen 11:16 Peleg +34, Gen 11:18 Reu +30, Gen 11:20 Serug +32, Gen 11:22 Nahor +30 , Gen 11:24 Terah +29, Gen 11:26 Abram +70, Abram was +52 when God called him and they left Ur. Our year 1970.5 BCE He lived in Haran for 23 years, then went to Canaan at age 75. Genesis 12:4 Total years so far = 2000 Gen 17:1, Abraham was 99 when the Covenant was made with God. +47 Genesis 17:1-8 Galatians 3:17 Paul states that the Law was given +430 after the Covenant. Total years elapsed until the Exodus – 2477, in our year 1493.5 BCE. [Many ancient records say Comet Typhon passed close the earth at that time. It was the cause of many of the disasters in Egypt.] 1 Kings 6:1 The Temple construction starts, in the 4th year of King Solomon +480 since the Torah was given at the Exodus.. 1 Kings 11:42 Solomon 40 minus 4 = +36, 1 Kings 14:21 Rehoboam +17, 1 Kings 15:2 Abijah +3, 2 Chron 16:13 Asa +41, 1 Kings 22:42 Jehoshaphat +25, 2 Kings 8:17 Jehoram +8, 2 Kings 8:26 Ahaziah +1, 2 Kings 11:1-3 Athaliah +6, 2 Kings 12:1-3 Joash +40, 2 Kings 14:1-2 Amaziah +29, 2 Kings 15:1-2 Azariah +52, 2 Kings 15:32 Jotham +16, 2 Kings 16:1-2 Ahaz +16, 2 Kings 18:1-2 Hezekiah +29, 2 Kings 21:1 Manasseh +55, 2 Kings 21:19 Amon +2, 2 Kings 22:1-2 Josiah +31, 2 Kings 22:31 Jehoahaz +3mths, 2 Kings 23:31 Jehoiakim +11, 2 Kings 24:8 Jehoichin +3mths, 2 Kings 24:18 Zedekiah +11, who ruled until the Babylonian captivity in our year 586 BCE. Total elapsed years to the first exile of Judah = 3386.5 586 BCE + 613.5 years + 2 comes to 29.5 CE, the date of Jesus’ baptism. Luke 3:1 Plus 2 to include the total number of elapsed years, as our calendar system counts years from their commencement. 3386.5 + 613.5 = 4000 years. July 2017.5 CE - 29.5 CE = 1988 years since the commencement of Jesus’ Ministry. 1988 + 4000 = 5988 years, is where we are now. 5988 + 12 = 6000 years 2017.5 CE + 12 = 2029.5 CE Exactly 2000 years to the end of the present Church age. 4000 since Abraham, 6000 since Adam. Next comes the 1000 year reign of Jesus. 7000 years is God’s decreed time for mankind. Those who have been found worthy will go into Eternity with God. Revelation 22:1-5 47 Bible verses https://guidetothebible.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/guide_v2017calendar_year5988_2018.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Is Jesus Coming? Posted October 27, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 11 hours ago, Abdicate said: So my study (http://www.abdicate.net/chron.aspx) shows Jesus started His ministry in the year 4000 from Creation in 25 AD, because He died (14 Nisan 3787 (9 April 27 AD)) 483 years after Artaxerxes' order which was in Creation Year 3520, 1 Nisan 3304 (Mar 26, 457 BC). https://guidetothebible.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/guidechronologylatest1.pdf https://guidetothebible.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/guide_v2017calendar_year5988_2018.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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