144,000 their purpose

[Last Daze]

On 10/31/2017 at 8:16 PM, Sister said:

They are scattered throughout the whole earth, and are individuals who serve the Lamb, the Word of God and walk in his commandments.  They are not of religion or of the system of this world, but they are of the truth only and are in Christ in spirit and in truth.

There is nothing mentioned that the 144K will bear witness in Israel, for God sends his two prophets for this job.

We know for sure the 144K are true worshipers and have not been infiltrated by this world or the teaching of men.  One thing that stands out is their worship and loyalty to Christ, that they are obedient. 

There will be a big shaking up of the kingdom and the kingdom will be sifted between the honourable, the luke warm, and the fakes.  There are vessels made of Gold, silver, wood etc, some for glory and some for dishonour.  Not all vessels can be gold, as some are lesser but still of great value.

The luke warm will go through the fire in order to be purified for they have spots on their garments and have not washed them clean in the blood of the Lamb during their walk, however, mercy will be given at the end if they overcome.  They will be cleansed through fire (persecution).

Something else to consider . . . the 144,000 are sealed just before the seven plagues are poured out.  The first four plagues affect the celestial bodies, the earth, the seas, and springs of water.

• And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people; and he said with a loud voice, “Fear God, and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come; worship Him who made the heaven and the earth and sea and springs of waters.”  Revelation 14:6-7

Are the 144,000 the mouthpieces that preach this gospel during the first four plagues?

[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, Davida said:

Ya but what about Tibet? the Bible clearly did NOT , NOT mention Tibet specifically not.....so...ah. ..... (LOL!)  just kidding.

Now for where the bible does say they are.

Standing on mt Zion.

http://biblehub.com/revelation/14-1.htm

As for the great multitude.They come from the nations.

http://biblehub.com/revelation/7-9.htm

If the 144,000 are scatterd throughout the world in many nations as sister suggests then why wouldn't Jesus have gatherd that multitude while he was in those nations gathering the 144,000?

Does that make any sense?

Makes sense to me if they are found exactly where the bible says they are.

Edited November 2, 2017 by Shilohsfoal

[Sister]

13 hours ago, Last Daze said:

Something else to consider . . . the 144,000 are sealed just before the seven plagues are poured out.  The first four plagues affect the celestial bodies, the earth, the seas, and springs of water.

• And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people; and he said with a loud voice, “Fear God, and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come; worship Him who made the heaven and the earth and sea and springs of waters.”  Revelation 14:6-7

Are the 144,000 the mouthpieces that preach this gospel during the first four plagues?

Hi Last Daze

I really don't know if they are preaching during the first four plagues, because all the final warnings are before this. 

 

[Last Daze]

3 hours ago, Sister said:

because all the final warnings are before this. 

That depends on how you look at it.

[Sister]

14 hours ago, Last Daze said:

That depends on how you look at it.

Last Daze

I believe this is the final warning.

 

Revelation 14:9   And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Revelation 14:10   The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Revelation 14:11   And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Revelation 14:12   Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
 

 Revelation 18:4   And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
 

 

[Last Daze]

2 minutes ago, Sister said:

Last Daze

I believe this is the final warning.

 

Revelation 14:9   And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Revelation 14:10   The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Revelation 14:11   And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Revelation 14:12   Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
 

 Revelation 18:4   And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
 

 

It is a final warning inasmuch as one persists in that idolatry without repentance, because when Jesus returns, all decisions are final.  Either idolatry is forgivable or it's not.  That's the bottom line.  If it's not, then why did Jesus say it was?

[Shilohsfoal]

17 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

It is a final warning inasmuch as one persists in that idolatry without repentance, because when Jesus returns, all decisions are final.  Either idolatry is forgivable or it's not.  That's the bottom line.  If it's not, then why did Jesus say it was?

Let's put it this way.If anyone takes the mark,of the beast they obviously don't believe in Jesus.About 2 percent of Israel's population is Christian.A  much larger percentage is antichrist.

When the Israeli government gives its people the mark,who do you think won't take it?

As for those who do?

http://biblehub.com/revelation/9-21.htm

 

[simplejeff]

24 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Let's put it this way.If anyone takes the mark,of the beast they obviously don't believe in Jesus.

Most "Christendom" already is willing to accept the mark.   They have been taught it is okay (by the p&pe, b&sh&ps, pr&&sts, p&st&rs, t3&ch&rs, and 'evil'-angelists ... (every day, for generations now, for years lately more and more ) .... .  (of course, an error that costs them their soul;  and those who taught the error a far far greater torture/judgment for condemning so many ) .....

[Last Daze]

15 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Let's put it this way.If anyone takes the mark,of the beast they obviously don't believe in Jesus.

Or . . . . they haven't been properly instructed in the faith.  The people who build the image and take the mark are deceived into doing so.  There is a difference between willful transgression and transgression from ignorance.  The plagues are a wake-up call for those who were deceived by the signs and wonders that the man of sin performs to realize their error in following him and to repent.

[Shilohsfoal]

30 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

Or . . . . they haven't been properly instructed in the faith.  The people who build the image and take the mark are deceived into doing so.  There is a difference between willful transgression and transgression from ignorance.  The plagues are a wake-up call for those who were deceived by the signs and wonders that the man of sin performs to realize their error in following him and to repent.

I can't see any Christians in Israel receiving the mark.I would find that very difficult.

But those Israelis who reject Jesus as the messiah would line up.And as you say those out of ignorance would.

http://biblehub.com/revelation/13-12.htm

As for the second beast.It's not going to be unusual to see a military making fire come down from heaven.The first beast is quite efficient at it.The second beast just practices the authority of the Israeli government.

Those who are in Christ will be strong though.

http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-32.htm

http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-33.htm

 

 

Edited November 4, 2017 by Shilohsfoal