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Adam and Eve as Genealogical vs Genetic Ancestors


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2 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

No one has been unkind.  Don't confuse being nice with being kind.   Was Jesus unkind when called the Pharisees "sons of Hell?"

Jesus was an accurate judge of character.  The rest of us are not. Here are the guidelines:

37 Top Bible Verses About Judging Others - Inspiring Scriptures

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5 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

That's not a response.  I really don't care how long you claim to have been saved.   That is not even relevant and is not a refutation.

I'm afraid it's still a response though relevance is
always dependant on your frame of mind at the time. 

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7 hours ago, SkyWriting said:

Not correct.

So a "Na'ahh"??  Riveting!!

You wouldn't happen to be Pre-Law by chance?

 

regards

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4 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

Just to clarify....   Are you saying that when God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply, the earth was instantaneously filled with people???

Yes implied by I read Gen 6:13(NIV)

 So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.

He said destroy both. if day is to 24hr  then destroy is to uncreate.  

Because there is no separate account of words then this must have happened during The Flood. 

Uncreate can be to go back to Gen 1:2 to  'the waters' thus some people see the Flood as global. 

But Noah has nothing to land the ark on. Eden is gone. The historic landmarks are gone. Mt Everest is NOT the measure of 'the waters'... otherwise it would have been destroyed. 

In Genesis Chapter 1 God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place,and let dry ground appear.” And it was so.

God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so.

Notice that The sun does not set on His commands unfulfilled.

So the earth needs recreated and 

 between Gen 8:15 and Gen9:7 three times God says in various ways :

“Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. 

Does the sun set on His command unfulfilled? How do we know He is releasing power in one case and not the other?

It resembles Gen 1:28 during the second accounting of Creation days

It solves issues of :

Cain and Seth wives so that they do not violate rules set down later about marrying you father's daughter.

Dispersion of our race in short YEC time  "the earth was filled" --keeping in mind that that earth no longer exists if God is true to saying 'destroy the land/earth'. Possible yes but a constant motion of generations towards the horizon expanding territory not forming fixed functional cities with economies.

The functionality of an environment complete with food for predators - but yes it could just be Providence until everything gets where it needs to be.

 genetically everyone is still related to Adam and Eve  (doesnt change the observables) and still accounts for the modern observation of a mRNA focal point and carrying original sin at the time of Noah.

I respect the power of God's spoken words over Creation and my supposition of Yes! implies that prophets and scribes are required to not accidentally release Creationary power by stating something is to be done...such as the Ten Commandments. 

 

It creates problem of:

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22 minutes ago, Enoch2021 said:

So a "Na'ahh"??  Riveting!!

You wouldn't happen to be Pre-Law by chance?

 

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Full law...in my sig file.

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On 11/4/2017 at 6:06 PM, one.opinion said:

While many scientists (Christians included) argue that genetic evidence suggests that the human population never dipped below roughly 10,000 and thus suggesting that Adam and Eve are not historical figures, he argues that this genetic evidence cannot eliminate the possibility of an original pair.

Adam and Eve might not have been the first humans.  God, being spirit, brought Spirit to humanity, first through Adam and Eve.  Adam was not made by Spirit.  He was formed from nature.

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5 hours ago, SkyWriting said:

Adam and Eve might not have been the first humans. 

 

6 minutes ago, Yowm said:

God, being spirit, brought Spirit to humanity

(ERROR OF QUOTE FUNCTION) NOT posted by Yowm, this quote was posted by the promoter of false info.

5 hours ago, SkyWriting said:

 first through Adam and Eve.

 

5 hours ago, SkyWriting said:

Adam was not made by Spirit

 

6 minutes ago, Yowm said:

He was formed from nature.

ANOTHER ERROR OF QUOTE FUNCTION: This quote was not posted by Yowm,  but was posted by the one promoting the errors of the enemy of Christ.

 

The one promoting the errors of the enemy of Christ :

Your are Batting zero so far.   Nothing true.   Five strikes in ONE POST,  and you're always out ! (in error, taught by the darkness ? )

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2 minutes ago, Yowm said:

I said none of those things, please don't misquote and then blame.

Noted BEFORE you posted here .... go read the post again - the QUOTE FUNCTION MALFUNCTIONED.....

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7 hours ago, SkyWriting said:

Jesus was an accurate judge of character.  The rest of us are not. Here are the guidelines:

JESUS IS always perfect judge.  Those who follow Him and Listen to Him likewise are accurate, when they do as the Father Says , as He Says also in His Word.

You are not, since you DENY GOD'S WORD.  (that a child can understand, as Yahweh is well pleased to REVEAL it to them)

6 hours ago, SkyWriting said:

I'm afraid it's still a response though relevance is
always dependant on your frame of mind at the time. 

No,  it is not dependant on anything temporal or carnal, nor anything from you or from the flesh, nor anything from the prince of the power of the air.

 

All that is "relevant" is what Yahweh Says,  just as His Word Says, which you continually are opposing.

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9 hours ago, SkyWriting said:

I'm afraid it's still a response though relevance is
always dependant on your frame of mind at the time. 

No, a real response would have real substance.   And relevance is not dependent on one's frame of mind.   Relevance speaks to actually addressing the issues raised.

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