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Worthy Christian Library » A.B. Simpson » The Gospel of Healing » Chapter 3 – Popular Objections

Chapter 3 – Popular Objections

"The Age of Miracles is not past. The Word of God never indicated a hint of such a fact. On the contrary, they are to be among the signs of the last day; and the very adversary himself is to counterfeit them, and send forth at last the spirits of devils working miracles, into the kings of the earth. So that the only defense against the false miracles will be the true. We are in the Age of miracles, the Age of Christ, the Age which lies between two Advents, and underneath the eye of a ceaseless Divine Presence, the Age of Power, the Age which above all other ages of time should be intensely alive.

THE SAME RESULTS AS ARE CLAIMED FOR FAITH IN THE HEALING OF DISEASE ARE ALSO SAID TO FOLLOW THE PRACTICES OF SPIRITUALISM, ANIMAL MAGNETISM, CLAIRVOYANCE, ETC.

We will not deny that while some of the manifestations of Spiritualism are undoubted frauds, there are many that are unquestionably supernatural, and are produced by forces for which Physical Science has no explanation. It is no use to try to meet this terrific monster of SPIRITUALISM in which, as Joseph Cook says, is, perhaps, the great IF of our immediate future in England and America, with the hasty and shallow denial of the facts, of their explanation as tricks of legerdemain. They are often undoubtedly real and superhuman. They are “the spirits of devils working miracles,” gathering men for Armageddon."

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The sad thing is that the more you find out about life and people and investigate the origin and history of politics and religion,and traditions, the more you can see for yourselves the deception and evil nature of man . Man without being transformed by Gods Mercy and Grace can be very, very vile.

The Catholic religion as is,in the way the church is set up, is not really christian .

Like a pyramid scheme, the deceit is at the top and it keeps a lot of its deceit -secret- from the ones at the bottom of the pyramid, ie, the average-more innocent- people.

I believe the people who are more innocent and who truly have an innocent love for Christ Jesus and His Plan of Mercy and Grace, are truly saved, but the deception of the RCC is great.

a person can only find that out for themselves be investigating for themselves the hitory of the RCC, and in which years the add-ons were put into place.

 

Some things to consider in the history making of the add-ons of the Catholic church.

 even going as far back as…

 

 

In 836 AD The council of Aix-la-Chapelle in France openly admitted

That abortions and infanticide were epidemic in convent and monasteries to cover up the sexual activities of the clergy

At the time a bishop St. Ulrich argued from the bible that the only way to purify the church from these excesses was to allow priest to marry. But that was not the trend.

In 1074 Pope Gregory the seventh said that anyone who wished to be ordained must first pledge to be celibate. (there is a difference between celibacy and chastity BTW, and priest took advantage of this)

In 1095 Pope Urban II

 had the wives of priest sold into slavery and had their children thrown out into the streets to fend for themselves.

Finally in 1123 the first lateren council decreed that all clerical marriages where invalid. But in spite of this, even up to the 15th century 50% of all the priests were still married just it was kept undercover. Ultimately in 1545-1563 the counsel of Trent decreed that celibacy and virginity were morally superior to the married state. This was the final victory of Augustinian theology. Error breeds error.

 

 There are many errors within Roman-ism.

For example, in around the years 375 AD, was the idea of praying to angels and dead saints.

593 AD, was the doctrine of purgatory.Side note:Trying to answer a serious problem, no one in Catholicism had any assurance of salvation, and needed a fictitious place where souls could go that where not worthy of heaven! They also made it that people of the dead could pay for masses for the dead to help them go to heaven and also faster.

 

Roman-ism is very much a works based religion. Your saved by all the good stuff that you do.

 

Because no man can do all the good works to a fault, the came up with this idea for this temporal punishment due to sin: Purgatory

 

Because the church always taught the sacrament of penitence, that you go to this priest and confess your sins to him and that he grants you absolution, but also with that comes having to do penance. The catholic church place repentance and penance together.

Penance means mortification of the flesh.

The ideas is even though you confessed your sins with great repentance,you still have to do penance (So for them Salvation is not such a FREE Gift From God, it must by paid for by our own works of penance.

 

In the older times you either would pour ashes over you head, or fast or  even nuns were taught to self fl adulate (wip themselves with a flagelem ) before getting dressed and beginning their day as a way of mortifying the flesh.

 

Their exists a Catholic order called Opus Day ( became a bit of an infamous name because of the davinci code) however that even till this day, they wear barb wire under theri clothe around the waist or around thighs, all this is to mortifying their flesh.

 

So with the RCC, you can say so many rosaries and mortify your flesh, but you never know when its enough.

 

So anything not covered in this life will have to get covered in the next life, so even popes die without the assurance of salvation, so because their was no assurance of salvation in Catholicism,,thus the Vatican had to come up with a fictitious place where the souls could go

That where not yet ready of heaven.: Purgatory

The dogma further teaches that when you dies there is no more that you can do, but the people alive(surviving relatives) who knew you, it was up to them to pray for you and pay masses for you to help pay your way out of purgatory and into heaven, To pay for a low mass its $… to pay for a high mass its $… and a solem high mass was the more pricey…

 

Then there is the reciting of prayers, some are more effectual into getting your departed loved ones sprung out of purgatory and into heaven.

 

 

 

 

 

 In 610 AD the idea of having the title of Pope.

The year 709 AD the idea that if you approach the Pope you had to kiss his feet. (now where is that in the bible?)

In 750, the idea of the Pope is having temporal power.

In 788, the worshiping and images of saints.

In 8950 the mass viewed as an unbloodied sacrifice

1090 praying the rosary (introduces by StPaul the hermit)

1100  the use of the confessional box

 The beginning of the Inquisition of heretics began in 1184 began with the council of Rome

The selling of indulgences is the purchases of the forgiveness of sins  began in 1190

This also is called The Enchiridion Of Indulgences

-Lists dozens of prayers you can say for deceased relatives:

-Partial indulgences

-Plenary Indulgences

***This became a HUGE source of revenue in the middle ages

-The rich were even allowed to pay for sins in advance.

 

(*** foot note: Romans 3:10 says none are righteous, not even one.

Isaiah ch 64: 6 says we are all as an unclean thing, all our righteousness are as the likes of filthy rags…) So according to the bible, no human being has enough merit to get to heaven

 

However  in Catholicism it says that the Pope in him alone has the key to unlock this bank account of stored merit in heaven and to dispense it through indulgences.

 

There exist a book with which you can purchase that has a list of prayers to use for indulgences to get your loved ones out of purgatory..  

 

The doctrine of transubstantiation 1215 that the bread and wine literally become the body and blood of Christ Jesus

The practice of adoring the host(wafer) 1220

Laity forbidden to read the bible 1229 by the counsel of Valencia decreed.

 

The scapular the little piece of wool cloth to be worn around your neck that was a promise given by the virgin Mary to St Simon Stock in 1287       That anyone who wore this scapular and who did certain prayers everyday that when they died they would go strait to heaven.

 

 In 1414 The church forbade the Laity form drinking from the communion cup.

 

In 1439 Purgatory was formally declared a formal dogma of the church

 

In 1540 the Jesuit order was started by Ignatius Loyola witch was built on hermit-ism and principals of magik

 

Council of Trent  in 1545 decreed that tradition was of equal authority to Bible scripture

 

In 1834 the church declares by Pius the IX, the immaculate conception of Mary (that she like Jesus was born without sin in her by an action of God by time cranking the merits of Calvary back to the time of Mary's conception.)

 

In 1870,The same Pope Pius IX declares Popes to be infallible

 

In 1950 Pope XII decrees the dogma of the assumption of Mary to have been assumed into heaven . That is that when she dieds she went strait up to heaven -was ruptured- meaning her body at the time of her death also went to heaven .

 

So many of these New creeds and dogmas were instated hundreds of years after the Bible.

 

 

 

 

Anyways…. why somebody would choose to leave their Bible believing faith and go towards something so far ways from what the bible truly says goes beyond my frame of understanding.

A good video from an ex catholic gives factual data:

 

Check on you tube for Bill Schnoebelen -Catholicism: The Church on Haunted Hill

Bill Schnoebelen - Catholicism: The Church on Haunted Hill - YouTube

 

 

 

Year 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPki5E7EnV8

 

 

Year 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFZfcicUaOY

 

 

 

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The Jesuits are most definitely a secret society, and part of the Catholic Church.

The Jesuit are  an anti Christ society, and if some people still naively consider them to be Christians, then they-the Jesuits- have managed well to keep their true identity secret. But not secret for many who throughout the centuries who understood their deceitful tactics.

To get a lot of historical information and quotes from a variety of sources -people- along the centuries who had to deal with Jesuits, you can- you tube- the following:

Vatican  Secrets The Jesuits

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Sorry for the repeats, was having trouble with my computer, it began freezing up.

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On 11/12/2017 at 9:54 AM, Justin Adams said:

Some hold that the scriptures are sacrosanct in the sense that they worship them....
to the exclusion of the Person they point to: Yahweh....

:sherlock:

Holy

It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. John 6:63 (English Standard Version)

Are His Words

Hold on to instruction, do not let it go; guard it well, for it is your life. Proverbs 4:13 (New International Version)

And Holy Is The LORD Jesus

Simon Peter replied, "Lord, to whom would we go? You have the words that give eternal life. John 6:68 (New Living Translation)

Dear Ones, Don't Walk The Earth Without It

Your word I have treasured in my heart, That I may not sin against You. Psalms 119:11 (New American Standard Bible)

~

Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27 (King James Bible)

Love, Your Brother Joe

~

Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. Psalms 119:160 (King James Bible)

The Bible contains the mind of God, the state of man, the way of salvation, the doom of sinners, and the happiness of believers. Its doctrines are holy, its precepts are binding, its histories are true, and its decisions are immutable.

Read it to be wise, believe it to be safe, and practice it to be holy. It contains light to direct you, food to support you, and comfort to cheer you.

It is the traveler’s map, the pilgrim’s staff, the pilot’s compass, the soldier’s sword and the Christian’s charter. Here too, Heaven is opened and the gates of Hell disclosed.

Christ is its grand subject, our good its design, and the glory of God its end. It should fill the memory, rule the heart and guide the feet. Read it slowly, frequently and prayerfully.  It is a mine of wealth, a paradise of glory, and a river of pleasure.

It is given you in life, will be opened at the judgment, and be remembered forever. It involves the highest responsibility, rewards the greatest labor, and will condemn all who trifle with its sacred contents.

From The Inside Of My Gideon New Testament

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14 minutes ago, Davida said:

I  really do not know what people are saying in this thread, it is a contradiction of what the Bible says and they are not helping anyone.

I agree with your post. No one knowing what 'The Church of Rome' stands for and still upholds can really in truth be a practising Christian in the way I think they should be. However, there are Catholics that do not know all of this or turn a blind eye.
That also might be true to some extent of all churches. I suppose it is a question of degree maybe? At what point does a person have to break fellowship with a group that is in error or teaching the wrong sort of thing? This is a really tricky and difficult position to be in.

I suppose in the past this has been the raison d'être for many church splits and formulations of new Christian groups.

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9 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

At what point does a person have to break fellowship with a group that is in error or teaching the wrong sort of thing? 

It is not "fellowship" when it is in a false gospel.  It is only being around one another.  There is no fellowship with darkness, there is no fellowship of those in CHRIST (THE LIGHT) with those in darkness..... 

Only perhaps someone is bedfast, bed-ridden, sick, old, disabled, and then what can they do ?  As written "HOLD FAST TO JESUS, TO HIS NAME" and do not learn any more of the deep things of satan (that is taught and practiced in society, in  the rcc, false gospels, other religions) .

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1 hour ago, Davida said:

I want to add, WHERE and HOW does a RC hear the True Gospel Given to them by a Priest -without LIES woven in between and overtop??  They don't. They don't understand the full pure message of the Gospel because they never hear it in their Cathedrals. If by chance they read their Bibles or hear it preached elsewhere and get saved by grace through Faith - by the mercy of God- Then they become EX-Catholics! ;) 

The same way many get saved with no church. By the Holy Spirit getting ahold of their attention. Lies abound in or out of church. Disdain for the false is not necessary. Only show the truth and in this way the lies are revealed. Tell me not what you disagree with, tell me of your hope!  

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1 hour ago, Davida said:

I want to add, WHERE and HOW does a RC hear the True Gospel Given to them by a Priest -without LIES woven in between and overtop??  They don't. They don't understand the full pure message of the Gospel because they never hear it in their Cathedrals. If by chance they read their Bibles or hear it preached elsewhere and get saved by grace through Faith - by the mercy of God- Then they become EX-Catholics! ;) 

YES!  HALLEULYAH EVERYTIME an EX-Catholic is truly SAVED IN JESUS and comes out of baby lon.

Also,

fun(JOYFUL)  connect the dots:   when JESUS told the disciples to LISTEN to those (who knew not JESUS nor YAHWEH) teaching, 

was SLIGHTLY the same as today when those who know not JESUS nor YAHWEHE  are "LECTERING" ? or PREACHING ....

JESUS SAYS

LISTEN !!!!!!!!!   but to what ?  LISTEN to what ?  What is told by JESUS to listen to when the speakers KNOW NOT JESUS NOR YAHWEH ?   (that JESUS told the Apostles and disciples) ....

Not forgetting also, never forgetting once learned from JESUS,  WHAT NOT TO LISTEN TO.   (different subject but at the same time)

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54 minutes ago, Davida said:

The Catholics that get saved leave-- because they have to speak out against the heresies. 

Not only Catholics, but many in other chruches too - only they don't have to choose on their own to "leave" -

like Martin Luther, Charles Chiniquoy,  Joan of Arc,  the messengers of Yahweh, the disciples of Jesus born of Yahweh by Yahweh's Will , 

whenever anyone STANDS UP FOR TRUTH,  they GET KICKED OUT !  (or murdered/ imprisoned/ tortured (yes, even today) ) ....

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