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    • By SurrenderedWife
      Blessings brothers and sister,
      I was wondering what insight you might have about the usefulness of having children in these last last days. I know we don't know "the day and the hour" but we can't ignore the times. I really want children, and so does my unbelieving spouse but 2 miscarriages later and with the end approaching I'm wondering if this is the best decision for serving the Lord. I love to study and teach and have already envisioned a wonderful and comprehensive homeschooling curriculum, and will follow guides to make sure they successfully grow through their stages. My husband forbids the kids attending church or being taught Christianity as fact rather than my belief. Still, he's not against Christian friends and conversation per se... Other than this, my husband is a committed provider, supports traditional roles and most of Christian teachings, and is very affectionate to family (including our cats).
      I think will make a very good dad. So far things seem to indicate a green light from God, but I'm still interested in what you all know or think!
    • By SurrenderedWife
      Paul Wilbur's music moves my heart more than any other, I wonder why...


      I always think of the Marriage Supper having this kind of music
    • By turtletwo
      I thought this to be a 'worthy' subject ( pun intended.) In this thread we can ponder on the importance of prayer and especially God's view on it.  Please join in posting scriptures, sharing helpful comments, etc.
    • By Mary8
      The Comings of the Lord Jesus: the Rapture in blessing in mid air, then from heaven on a white horse in judgment
      There is no mention of the term "second coming" in the Bible.   The term seems to cause some to deny the coming for believers as compared to His coming down to the earth in judgment.
      Jesus will come, in the air to take believers up to Himself, in white, His hands in blessing, for His saints, in like manner as He went up:
      John 14:3  And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
      Luke 24:50-52  50 And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them. 51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven. 52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:
      Acts 1:11   Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
      Luke 18:8  Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
      Revelation 16:15   Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
      Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.  
      Isaiah 25:9 And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him,...
      I Thess. 4:16-17  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:  17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
      Psalms 27:5  For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock.
      Jude 1:14-15 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,  15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
      1 Thess, 5:2   For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.  Verse 4  But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
      Jesus comes to the earth in judgment, on a horse, with fire and a sword, in red garment, not in blessing, to render His anger with fury:
      Revelation 19:7-16   7 For the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.... 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.... 11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. 
      Psalm 50:3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before Him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about Him.
      Isaiah 66:15-16 15For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. 16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
      2 Peter 3:10     But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
      Zech. 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle;... 3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.....  8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem.
      Rev. 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.
      Revelation 3:3   Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
    • By Mary8
      I believe in past weeks the Lord has given me new insights from Psalm 50, on the imminent rapture of those believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior.  See Scripture references at end hereof.
      Psalm 50, with my comments in brackets:
      1 (A Psalm of Asaph.)  The mighty God, even the LORD, hath spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the going down thereof.
      2  Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined.
      3  Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence:  a fire shall devour before Him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about Him.
         [note by Mary:  These words remind me of the fire when Elijah was taken up into heaven, II Kings 2:11.  The following verses then tell who it is that He is coming for.  Christians are told to "wait for His Son"  I Thess. 10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.   Jesus promised He will come for us, John 14:18, and this is our blessed hope, and our comfort.
      4  He shall call to the heavens above, and to the earth, that He may judge His people. 
      [I Thess. 4:18 states that He shall descend from heaven "with a shout" and that the "dead in Christ" and "we which are alive" shall be separated  from others and brought before Him for judgment.  This indicates that the time is when God calls out.  Judgement of His people is specifically referred to, and a separating of His people is implied and points to to the timing of rewards or lack thereof to Christians (I Cor. 3:11-15, regarding judgment for rewards or loss to believers.]
      5  Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice. 
      [This again echoes the words of I Thess. 4:18:  "caught up together" and the verses indicate who He will gather.  Believers accept Christ's death as their sacrifice.]
      6  And the heavens shall declare his righteousness:  for God is judge himself.  Selah
      [This emphasizes that the heavens will testify that God keeps His promises and the rapture of Christians through the heavens will reveal this to the world in a marvelous way.   Judgment is again referred to.]
      7  Hear, O my people, and I will speak; O Israel, and I will testify against thee:  I am God, even thy God. 
      [Then we come to the point where the Psalm reveals that there is a message to Israel, to Jews who had not accepted Christ.]
      8  I will not reprove thee for thy sacrifices or thy burnt offerings, to have been continually before me. 
      [This possibly suggests that the animal sacrifices are occurring at the time of the rapture.]
      9  I will take no bullock out of thy house, nor he goats out of thy folds.
      10  For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.
      11  I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field are mine.
      12  If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof.
      13  Will I eat the flesh of bulls, or drink the blood of goats?
      14  Offer unto God thanksgiving: and pay thy vows unto the most High: 
      [This is advice to Israel.  Some will realize that Jesus was their Messiah and that they can be thankful for this knowledge, and make a vow to Him.   It points to the need of Israel to accept the sacrificial death of the Lord Jesus.   I believe many will immediately do so.]
      15  And call upon me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me. 
      [The Lord tells Israel what they need to do, gives His promise that He will deliver them too, and gives the outcome, that Israel shall glorify their Savior.]
      16  But unto the wicked God saith, What hast thou to do to declare my statutes, or that thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth? 
      [Beginning with this verse, the Lord speaks to the wicked, and tells them they should take His covenant and declare His statutes, and that they have rejected Him and come under the law of sin.  Sinners must start with realizing they rejected Him and are in the time of trouble when His wrath is poured out.]
      17  Seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee.  
      18  When thou sawest a thief, then thou consentedst with him, and has been partaker with adulterers.  
      19  Thou givest thy mouth to evil, and thy tongue frameth deceit.  
      20  Thou sittest and speakest against thy brother; thou slanderest thine own mother's son.  
      21  These things has thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes.  
      22  Now consider this ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.
      23 Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I shew the salvation of God.
      [So the Lord then promises salvation to the one who orders his conversation right, and offers praise, glorifying God.  Jesus' Name means salvation, and some of those left behind, not among the gathered people, will receive Him and be saved during the tribulation.]
      Scripture references: 
      II Kings 2:11  And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.   In Ezekiel chapter 1, " Ezekiel 1:4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself,
      I Thess. 1:10 (wait for His Son from heaven....) 
      I Thess. 4:18 (For the Lord himself shall descend with a shout ....);
      John 14:3 (I will come again, and receive you unto myself);
      John 14:18 (... will not leave you comfortless, I will come for you);
      Titus 2:13 (Looking for that blessed hope);
      Psalm 27:5 (5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock.); 
      I Thess. 5:9 (God hath not appointed us to wrath);
      Romans 5:9 (justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him);
      Rev. 3:10 (I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation);
      Heb. 10:19 (come into the holy place through the blood of Jesus); 
      I Cor. 3:11-15 (gold, ... hay, stubble, ... reward ... loss)  Psalm 91 (the dragon shalt thou trample under feet);
      Psalm 34:7 (the angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear Him).  
      Luke 12:32 (Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.)
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