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Scriptural proof for the pre-trib rapture of the Church


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Then you have people on here who says they will be saved when they see Christ,are you serious?

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On 12/1/2017 at 10:23 AM, Quasar93 said:

Why would anyone be seeking Scriptural teachings about the Church, in the OT, when it is addressed to Israel?  The teachings about the Church begin at Pentecost, together with Jesus fulfilling the prophesied New Covenant, opening the doors to the Gospel being taught to the Gentiles, by Paul?

 

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What is it to be a Jew, the chosen of God. 

"To be a Jew is not to look like a Jew, and circumcision is more than a physical operation. The real Jew is the one who is inwardly a Jew, and the real circumcision is in the heart."

 

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" In addition, all Israel (physical Jews) will be saved when Christ returns"

 

All of Israel who believe in Jesus Christ during the coming tribulation period will be saved

2/3rds of Israel will not [Zechariah 13:8-9] 

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On 12/29/2017 at 7:13 AM, Spock said:

While they may now both we sucking off the same root (ROM 11), and while the two are now one in Christ, they are still two distinct bodies. Every time you see the word Israel in the NT it means the Nation of Israel (physical Jews). It does not mean the Church or the believing Christians.  In addition, all Israel (physical Jews) will be saved when Christ returns. And of course all those eternal promises he made to Abraham (father of the Jews) will be fulfilled when he returns.

1 Cor 10:32 says it all...do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks, or the Church of God.....”

Your thinking is too limited Spock. You think like men do, not like God.

Tell me, at what point will the world be in the Trib. What is the sign, do you know?

Is it the breaking of the Sixth seal. Because it is written. (Last few lines) " Then all the earthly rulers, the governors, and the commanders, the rich people, and the men of influence, the whole population, slaves and citizens, took to the mountains to hide in caves and amount rocks. They said to the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us away from the One who sits on the throne and from the anger of the Lamb.""

Scripture doesn't say that for the first Seal, if you believe it to be the anti-Christ.

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"Your thinking is too limited Spock. You think like men do, not like God"

 

Hogwash Pud .... read your Bible and stop trying to corrupt truth

 

Edited by Daniel 11:36
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55 minutes ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

"Your thinking is too limited Spock. You think like men do, not like God"

 

Hogwash Pud .... read your Bible and stop trying to corrupt truth

 

Corrupt who's truth? What you believe? 

I only asked a simple question. So, what sign will let anyone know the Trib is here?

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8 hours ago, Pudgenik said:

Corrupt who's truth? What you believe? 

I only asked a simple question. So, what sign will let anyone know the Trib is here?

The very first sign will be the rapture of the church, followed quickly by the 6th seal. How did those at the 6th seal know the day of His wrath had come? First there was a worldwide earthquake, unlike any earthquake up to that date: the whole world will shake. Then the sun will darken and the moon will appear blood red. Then all should know the Day of the Lord has come. Then, when nukes begin to explode, all will know that the first trumpet judgments have come. By that time, all should know that the "trib" or the 70th week of Daniel has come.

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9 hours ago, Pudgenik said:

Your thinking is too limited Spock. You think like men do, not like God.

Tell me, at what point will the world be in the Trib. What is the sign, do you know?

Is it the breaking of the Sixth seal. Because it is written. (Last few lines) " Then all the earthly rulers, the governors, and the commanders, the rich people, and the men of influence, the whole population, slaves and citizens, took to the mountains to hide in caves and amount rocks. They said to the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us away from the One who sits on the throne and from the anger of the Lamb.""

Scripture doesn't say that for the first Seal, if you believe it to be the anti-Christ.

You are very close, but not exact. The 6th seal begins the Day of the Lord. It is the 7th seal, with the 30 minutes of silence, that begins the 70th week of Daniel. The 7th trumpet marks the midpoint, and the 7th vial ends it.

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4 hours ago, iamlamad said:

You are very close, but not exact. The 6th seal begins the Day of the Lord. It is the 7th seal, with the 30 minutes of silence, that begins the 70th week of Daniel. The 7th trumpet marks the midpoint, and the 7th vial ends it.

I don't know why you guys keep thinking I was saying it was the 6th seal. That wasn't what I said.

I was only asking Spock if he thought it was. 

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So let me ask this then, if the beginning of the Trib is the 7th seal as you noted. What is the meaning of the 1st seal. 

Many here think it is the anti -Christ. If it is the anti - Christ, shouldn't he been in the Trib?

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4 hours ago, iamlamad said:

You are very close, but not exact. The 6th seal begins the Day of the Lord. It is the 7th seal, with the 30 minutes of silence, that begins the 70th week of Daniel. The 7th trumpet marks the midpoint, and the 7th vial ends it.

I'm just trying to point out some flaws in these timelines so many try to figure out

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