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I wanted to look at this passage a little more closely since it seems to be being used in ways that take it out of its context.  It has a specific application for a very specific time in history.

  • Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.  Revelation 3:10

Certain questions need to be asked and answered in order to understand the specific nature of that verse.

  • What is the time of testing that comes upon the whole world?

  • When is it?

  • Why does the whole world need to be tested?

  • What is the word of His perseverance?

  • How does one keep it?

The time of testing will affect everyone who dwells on the earth, with the obviously stated exception.  It’s not stated as a time of testing for believers or a time of testing for unbelievers.  It’s a time of testing that affects everyone on earth.  It will prove, or determine, which kingdom people belong to; either God’s or the man of sin’s.  When Jesus returns, those who have aligned themselves with the man of sin will be destroyed.  There will be no need for inquiry.  The time of testing will have already proven who exactly that is.

The time of testing begins immediately after the great tribulation, after everyone has made their decision whether to engage in the mark and worship the image or not.  It concludes with the return of Christ.  There will be believers that will initially be duped by the signs and wonders that the man of sin performs.  The purpose of the plagues, which follow the great tribulation, is to convict the deceived of their error and persuade them to repent of their idolatry.

So, who then are the ones who have kept the word of His perseverance and are exempt from the hour of trial?  God states it plainly, twice, so there will be no mistake about it.

  • If anyone is destined for captivity, to captivity he goes; if anyone kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed. Here is the perseverance and the faith of the saints.  Revelation 13:10

  • And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”  Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.  Revelation 14:11-12

It can’t be any more clearly stated than that.  Those who will be kept from the hour of trial (the plagues) are those who did not succumb to receiving the mark or worshiping the image.  Granted, many will be martyred for refusing, so it’s easy to see how they will be kept from the trial, but those who made it through alive can look to the Exodus account to see how they will be kept from the plagues.

Heading off the objections:

Yes, people can repent of receiving the mark and worshiping the image.  To say otherwise would contradict what Jesus taught.  Idolatry is a forgivable sin.  It is those who persist in receiving the benefits of the mark, and persist in worshiping the image who will continue to receive the plagues and ultimately be cast into the lake of fire.  Those are the people Revelation 14:9-11 is talking about, those who never repent.

Yes, believers can be deceived.  Just look around at what’s being taught in churches and tell me that’s not true.  When Jesus said that the elect would not be deceived, He meant ultimately deceived.  To suggest that believers could not be deceived during the most deceptive time in history, when they are today, is ludicrous.  The believers who were deceived by the signs and wonders will be convicted by the plagues and repent.  They will not ultimately be deceived.

  • For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?  1 Peter 4:17

May we all discern the times and take action accordingly.

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The tribulation is not for the Church. Yes believers have suffered throughout history, but there is a special time(just like the flood) set apart called Day of the Lord of God's wrath. Christians suffering and the Tribulation/Day of the Lord are different. True believers in Christ during the Church age, represented by the Church of Philadelphia, are promised in Revelation 3:10.

1 Thessalonians 1:10

1 Thessalonians 5:9

Romans 5:9

Ephesians 5:6

Colossians 3:4

Again and again, Scripture states the Church is not meant to endure God's wrath. The wrath of God or the seven year tribulation is only meant for unbelievers.

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missmuffet is correct

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1 hour ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

missmuffet is correct

A useless, unsupported statement, made by someone who has believed the lie of a rapture to heaven. 

Luke 21:34-35 plainly says the great Day of the Lord will come upon everyone the whole world over.  Revelation 6:12-17 describes that Day, plus over 100 other prophesies. Verse 12 again refers to every person alive then.  It will be the test of 1 Peter 4:12 and thinking that Luke 21:36....' escape', means removal, is a wrong assumption. Many scriptures say that for those who call upon His Name on that Day, Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21, they will be saved. By protection, NOT by being whisked to heaven. 

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"A useless, unsupported statement, made by someone who has believed the lie of a rapture to heaven"

 

And you should believe that the Lord will come for His own just before He brings His wrath upon an unbelieving world

If not, you will either die in unbelief before, or you will enter the coming 70th week decreed with no bearing whatsoever

Your entire understanding is false with your composed idea

 

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13 hours ago, Last Daze said:

I wanted to look at this passage a little more closely since it seems to be being used in ways that take it out of its context.  It has a specific application for a very specific time in history.

 

  • Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.  Revelation 3:10

     

Hi Last Daze,

Here are my thoughts -

Jesus enunciated this firm commitment to the Apostle John, `I also will keep (Greek - Tereo ek’) you from the hour of testing i.e. tribulation which will come on the whole world, to test those who dwell upon the earth”. (Rev. 3:10).

J.H. Thayer, in his Standard Greek Lexicon, construes that, when this verb ‘tereo’ is used with ‘ek’, as in this verse, it means - “by guarding, to cause one to escape in safety out of."

This would indicate emphatically that John was recording a promise of complete removal from the sphere of tribulation, not a preservation through it.

The only parallel passage in scripture (John 17:15) is one which is decisive in confirming this translation. Jesus prayed ... “keep them (tereo ek) from the evil one”, i.e. completely removed from his control. To properly indicate that the Church was going through the tribulation the Greek preposition ‘dia’ would have to have been used.

Arndt Gingrich International Greek Lexicon defines that this is further substantiated by the use of the words ‘the hour’. God is not only guarding from the tribulation, but from the very time-period itself when these trials will come on the earth dwellers.

Marilyn.

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3 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Last Daze,

Here are my thoughts -

Jesus enunciated this firm commitment to the Apostle John, `I also will keep (Greek - Tereo ek’) you from the hour of testing i.e. tribulation which will come on the whole world, to test those who dwell upon the earth”. (Rev. 3:10).

J.H. Thayer, in his Standard Greek Lexicon, construes that, when this verb ‘tereo’ is used with ‘ek’, as in this verse, it means - “by guarding, to cause one to escape in safety out of."

This would indicate emphatically that John was recording a promise of complete removal from the sphere of tribulation, not a preservation through it.

The only parallel passage in scripture (John 17:15) is one which is decisive in confirming this translation. Jesus prayed ... “keep them (tereo ek) from the evil one”, i.e. completely removed from his control. To properly indicate that the Church was going through the tribulation the Greek preposition ‘dia’ would have to have been used.

Arndt Gingrich International Greek Lexicon defines that this is further substantiated by the use of the words ‘the hour’. God is not only guarding from the tribulation, but from the very time-period itself when these trials will come on the earth dwellers.

Marilyn.

Hi Marilyn,

The point of this post is to show that Revelation 3:10 is specifically for those who keep the word of His perseverance in the context of the global trial.  The scriptures I posted identify those people as those who do not succumb to receiving the benefits of the mark or engage in worshiping the image.  How God plans to "keep" them from the plagues is up to Him.

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17 hours ago, missmuffet said:

The tribulation is not for the Church. Yes believers have suffered throughout history, but there is a special time(just like the flood) set apart called Day of the Lord of God's wrath. Christians suffering and the Tribulation/Day of the Lord are different. True believers in Christ during the Church age, represented by the Church of Philadelphia, are promised in Revelation 3:10.

1 Thessalonians 1:10

1 Thessalonians 5:9

Romans 5:9

Ephesians 5:6

Colossians 3:4

Again and again, Scripture states the Church is not meant to endure God's wrath. The wrath of God or the seven year tribulation is only meant for unbelievers.

 

14 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

"A useless, unsupported statement, made by someone who has believed the lie of a rapture to heaven"

 

And you should believe that the Lord will come for His own just before He brings His wrath upon an unbelieving world

If not, you will either die in unbelief before, or you will enter the coming 70th week decreed with no bearing whatsoever

Your entire understanding is false with your composed idea

 

You can believe whatever you wish.  Wisdom is vindicated by her deeds.  Not platitudes.

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And next .... the Lord will leave those who claim to be Christian

These will have to repent in His "hour" of trial just after [Revelation 3:14-22]

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On ‎9‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 12:34 AM, Last Daze said:

Hi Marilyn,

The point of this post is to show that Revelation 3:10 is specifically for those who keep the word of His perseverance in the context of the global trial.  The scriptures I posted identify those people as those who do not succumb to receiving the benefits of the mark or engage in worshiping the image.  How God plans to "keep" them from the plagues is up to Him.

Hi Last Daze,

The Lord kept Israel from the plagues in Egypt because it is an earthly nation. We, the Body of Christ are a holy nation from all the nations of the world destined for heaven. Our `trial` is the dying to self, which is far more difficult than `not taking the mark, or giving our body to be burned, or giving all to the poor, or having all knowledge or understanding all mysteries etc` (1 Cor. 13) There is NO purpose for us to go through the trial of the world, it is for them.

Marilyn.

 

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