lokp Posted December 12, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 104 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted December 12, 2017 I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit, and soprove to be My disciples. John 15:5,8 NASB for Quote he who abides in Me and I in him would Jesus not abide in us? yes if we harbour sin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokp Posted December 12, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 104 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Yowm said: even if he has to take us home early. not too keen about this bro! kinda think He wouldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted December 12, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 12, 2017 If we ask Him in he will abide in us. We must: Keep His commandments Love God with all our heart Have faith and trust in Him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokp Posted December 12, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 104 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 37 minutes ago, missmuffet said: If we ask Him in he will abide in us. We must: Keep His commandments Love God with all our heart Have faith and trust in Him that's fine sis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokp Posted December 12, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 104 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Yowm said: support you have an unteachable spirit and void of grace yown, the precious Lord will confirm this tonight and leave you in no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted December 13, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted December 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Yowm said: Jesus comes in and does a redo. We may break fellowship through obstinate unconfessed sin but He has promised to never leave or forsake us. He continues the sanctifying process even if he has to take us home early. No in the end many will understand too little too late ,. It was not JESUS that left or forsook them. NO THEY DID. they chose the flesh . Tis why its so dire as the real church knew. PULL EM OUT save a SOUL from death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted December 13, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted December 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Yowm said: OK, look at verse 5, then give me Scriptural support for why you think He wouldn't... 1Co 5:1-6 (1) It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. (2) And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. (3) For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, (4) In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, (5) To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. (6) Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? Believe you me. if one does get delivered unto destruction of the flesh. That will humble one . That too is all part of correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted December 13, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Yowm said: That is for those who are already abiding in death...not those born again who have LIFE in them. IS it possible to have been a partaker of the HOLY GHOST and tasted of the world to come and then fall away. According to both peter , and paul, IT WAS. IF a man CONTINUES NOT IN ME, CONTINUES not in me, he is cast out. Paul knew that too. HE knew he had to keep his body under subjection or even after all that gospel preaching he too be cast out. I do not know why this causes fear in so many. ITS not like JESUS wants us to fall away. HE DONT . HE DONT . but we can. and that is a biblical fact. TIS why we must encourage and EXHORT one another DAILY, lest ye become HARDENED through the decieftfulness of sin. I don't know why this scares so many. They think to say one can fall away is blasphemous or something . Some DO COME and in time of TEMPTTATON they DO fall away. AS JESUS said they do . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted December 13, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted December 13, 2017 HERES a true saying. ONCE saved ALWAYS saved so long as you continue in the one who DOES SAVE. FOR I walk don't END the day we COME , IT BEGINS and WHO we follow IS WHERE WE END UP. NOW obey grace, obey HIS SPIRIT for it is he in us who is working is us that which is well pleasing IN HIS SIGHT. a hint SIN AINT so don't follow the flesh , FOLLOW the SPIRIT . For truly we are the servants of whom we obey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted December 14, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,246 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,848 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted December 14, 2017 On 12/12/2017 at 1:55 PM, lokp said: On 12/12/2017 at 1:51 PM, Yowm said: even if he has to take us home early. not too keen about this bro! kinda think He wouldn't You might want to read the start of John 15.below Note the branches are IN ME (Jesus, the true vine) The chapter is about fruit bearing, not salvation. I understand it to say that bearing fruit glorifies the Father. A branch laying on the ground cannot bear fruit. It abides in the vine. (believers) The Father is the vine tender. If a branch is sucking up nutrients from the vine, and not producing fruit, it is removed by the VINE TENDER, God the Father. The branches that do produce fruit, He purges (prunes) cutting away (discipline-chastisement) unnecessary growth, so less branch (me) and more fruit. There is not one true believer (in Christ) who can harbor sin without God's chastisement. (Pruning) Joh 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Joh 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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