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We know that all scripture is given for our instruction and encouragement of God's people .

Whether you agree with it or not the purpose and instruction inherent in the pre-tribulation calling up is obvious , God will not abandon or forsake His faithful to suffer a specific 

judgement pronounced  upon the wicked .

Not a very hard purpose  to see or understand .

This God given message is replete throughout the bible , with no variance at all . 

There is not one instance in the entirety of scripture of God causing His faithful and obedient to endure a specific pronounced judgement upon the wicked . 

Not one , and nobody can name one  . 

Thus is should come as no surprise that you never hear the post -tribulation crowd ever state any clear single purpose of God giving up His faithful to suffer along with the wicked in a specific

proclaimed judgement upon the wicked .

It runs contrary to everything God teaches in His Word regarding pronounced judgements on the wicked  , and likewise you will never find an instance of God doing this .

The God that I know is not a God of purposelessness as is portrayed in a post -tribulation calling up , and that is why they cannot point to God's purpose in such a forsaking  . 

                               

                                                                             " For the Lord loveth  judgment , and FORSAKETH NOT HIS SAINTS .."    ( Psalm 37 : 28 ) 

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There is only one entity sentenced to death that that is Satan the son of perdition.   

2Th_2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Eze 28:18  Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

Eze 28:19  All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

Gone blotted out of the book forever more. 

There are also the 7000 fallen angels that will perish.

Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

These are the one's that refused to be born of woman and left their first estate(heaven) and came to earth in Gen 6.

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate(heaven), but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Rom 11:25  For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.


Rom 11:26  And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

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The church is sick...

Jeremiah 6:14
The priests and shepherds: They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

There is much error and deception, yet the Lord will administer refinements by allowing evil to sift His people. To test and find those worthy and for the others, they have already joined the adversary and will be dealt with as he is.

Do not wait on a rapture that will not come. Rather, heal the sick, bind up the broken, save the lost with Yeshua's Gospel.

Our duty is to be fellows in travails and runners seeking the prize. Following in the way of the Cross of our Lord. for the servant is not greater than His Master. We should be joint heirs in His suffering as well as His Salvation. Get used to this idea.

What does the Lord require? But to do justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with our God.

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34 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

The church is sick...

 

His blood-bathed  church is not " sick " .

It is healed .

Being washed in His precious  blood .  " ...with His stripes we are healed "   ( Isaiah 53 : 5 )

And ,    " It is Finished . "      ( John 19 : 30 ) 

Not clear at all what church you are talking about , but then the post-tribulation's perennial & comprehensive  state of  disorder & confusion in biblical purpose was the point of this thread .  

                                                            

                                                    

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1 hour ago, Justin Adams said:

 

 

.joint heirs in His suffering . Get used to this idea.

 

" suffering " for your faith   and being under Judgement are two entirely different things .    Biblically speaking .

More post-trib confusion .

And for that matter no one will ever suffer as Jesus did .

Our suffering is not even worthy to be compared to His .

You could never be a joint heir in what took place on the cross .

The human mind is incapable of fully understanding the level of suffering that took place on Calvary , let alone sharing in it . 

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52 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

The church is sick...

Jeremiah 6:14
The priests and shepherds: They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

There is much error and deception, yet the Lord will administer refinements by allowing evil to sift His people. To test and find those worthy and for the others, they have already joined the adversary and will be dealt with as he is.

Do not wait on a rapture that will not come. Rather, heal the sick, bind up the broken, save the lost with Yeshua's Gospel.

Our duty is to be fellows in travails and runners seeking the prize. Following in the way of the Cross of our Lord. for the servant is not greater than His Master. We should be joint heirs in His suffering as well as His Salvation. Get used to this idea.

What does the Lord require? But to do justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with our God.

Which church is "sick?" who.... the SDA? JW's , Mormons? those are false doctrines they are not included in the Biblical "Church".   The "church" of Christ are the collective true born again believers that are from many denominations & are the wheat pulled from out of the tares.  The true Church  is persecuted as usual, but still about the Father's business & joyfully awaiting upon meeting the Lord.  So you think the Groom is going to beat up the Bride before the wedding? no scripture for this.  

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A Servant Is Not Greater Than His Master (Acts 16:1-10/Jn.15:18-21)

The servant is not greater than his master; if our Master suffered and allowed Himself to be tortured, then, we will not escape passing through similar experiences since we have declared and decided to follow Him. But one thing is certain, if Jesus could not be destroyed or overcome by the persecutions He encountered, then, we too will not be destroyed so long as we remain in Him.

Jesus promised his disciples the night before he was crucified that their lot was to be no different than His. Jesus said: “No servant is greater than his master. If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also!”

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2 minutes ago, Davida said:

So you think the Groom is going to beat up the Bride before the wedding? 

This is such rhetorical nonsense.

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5 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

A Servant Is Not Greater Than His Master (Acts 16:1-10/Jn.15:18-21)

The servant is not greater than his master; if our Master suffered and allowed Himself to be tortured, then, we will not escape passing through similar experiences since we have declared and decided to follow Him. But one thing is certain, if Jesus could not be destroyed or overcome by the persecutions He encountered, then, we too will not be destroyed so long as we remain in Him.

Jesus promised his disciples the night before he was crucified that their lot was to be no different than His. Jesus said: “No servant is greater than his master. If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also!”

Yes, Jesus was speaking to the disciples with Him and was referring to their destiny that his twelve minus Judas would all face martyrdom & be killed but John who would be banished to the Island of Patmos.

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9 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

This is such rhetorical nonsense.

That is exactly what is implied. I cannot take credit for it.

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