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Why were the Elect not raptured

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14 hours ago, n2thelight said:

Not understanding,as in the days were cut short during the tribulation,yet rapturist say you all will be gone

You mean PRE TRIB rapturist .    WHEN the Lord cuts that work short,  that is him returning to destroy the evil and catch up the church.

but yeah.  We is going to go through an all out hell bent tribulation.    and its all under the guise of a false love , unity , world peace.   YEAH its coming sooner than later.

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22 hours ago, n2thelight said:

Christ said the tribulation was cut short for the elect sake.My question for those who believe in a rapture.Why were the elect not raptured?

You are referring to Matthew 24:22.

The elect is referring to those who will come to Christ during the last 3 1/2 years of the tribulation. He is saying that once the events begin they will happen quickly. It can not refer to the Church because they have already been raptured. He is saying this so that not all flesh will perish. There will be some alive after the seven year tribulation.

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2 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

You are referring to Matthew 24:22.

The elect is referring to those who will come to Christ during the last 3 1/2 years of the tribulation. He is saying that once the events begin they will happen quickly. It can not refer to the Church because they have already been raptured. He is saying this so that not all flesh will perish. There will be some alive after the seven year tribulation.

How can the elect not be a part of the Church,was not Paul of the Elect?

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The elect were chosen before the foundation of the world,could go deeper but will let it stay here for now

 

It takes years and years of studying Gods Word ,how do these people get it in 3 years?Especially when you all say the Holy Spirit will be gone?

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6 minutes ago, n2thelight said:

How can the elect not be a part of the Church,was not Paul of the Elect?

Who are the elect?

All those who have come to Christ and are saved.

Who is the Church?

All born again Christians.

Paul is part of the Church and he died and went to heaven. But the rapture of the Church has not happened as yet. When it does all those who are born again Christians and are saved will be raptured.

 

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17 hours ago, Psalms37:4 said:

Revelation 14:1-5 New King James Version (NKJV)

14 Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder. And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and no one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth. These are the ones who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These were redeemed from among men, being firstfruits to God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no deceit, for they are without fault before the throne of God.

 

If the 144,000 are raptured, how can Daniel's 70th week be fulfilled?

 

Yeah that's what it said. They get sealed before the tribulation commences at the 6th Seal. 

The church also suddenly appeared and is present before the throne room of God before the tribulation commences in the 6th Seal. Revelation 7:9-17.

The rapture happened at the beginning of the 6th Seal in Revelation 6:12-14. Watch the first video for an explanation on Revelation 6:12-14.

 

 

Revelation 6:15-17 is the reaction from people all over the world who were left behind knowing what had just happened was the rapture and knowing they will now have to face the wrath of God. People will know the only way millions of Christians suddenly vanished could only have been the rapture of the church. Many will become believers on the day of the rapture and begin turning to God.

Jesus said nobody knew when the tribulation came till they all saw the flood during the days of Noah. When the rapture hits, the whole world will also know the tribulation has started.

 

Revelation 6:15-17 New King James Version (NKJV)

15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

 

Matthew 24:36-39 New King James Version (NKJV)

36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

 

The rapture is a pretty effective way to sound the alarm to the whole world to know the tribulation has just started.

In summary at the 6th Seal.

Revelation 6:12-14 = The rapture of the church.

Revelation 6:15-17 = The world's reaction after being left behind knowing the wrath of God has begun.

Revelation 7:1-8 = The sealing of the 144,000.

Revelation 7: 9-17 = The church appears in heaven standing before God.

You can't get sealed unless you know His Word.The seal is knowledge of that Word.You say the wrath of God has begun,I say not so,do you understand what that wrath is.?

 

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Just now, n2thelight said:

People in non christian nations,are they not going through tribulations now?

There has been tribulations since Adam and Eve. But there will be a specific time of seven years in the future that God has set aside  His wrath and judgment on this earth for the unbelievers.

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