MorningGlory Posted December 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted December 22, 2017 Astronomers have discovered a giant 'black hole' millions of light years away that offers a glimpse into the universe as it was over thirteen billion years ago. This is how God laid things out and I believe we are getting closer to being able to see that moment when, from a singularity, He spoke everything into being. If He permits. https://www.yahoo.com/news/colossal-distant-black-hole-holds-surprises-early-universe-235944871.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch2021 Posted December 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,396 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 730 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/26/1963 Share Posted December 22, 2017 10 hours ago, MorningGlory said: Astronomers have discovered a giant 'black hole' millions of light years away that offers a glimpse into the universe as it was over thirteen billion years ago. This is how God laid things out and I believe we are getting closer to being able to see that moment when, from a singularity, He spoke everything into being. If He permits. https://www.yahoo.com/news/colossal-distant-black-hole-holds-surprises-early-universe-235944871.html 1. astronomy isn't "Science" and astronomers aren't "Scientists". 2. Scientifically Validate "black holes"... a. What Phenomenon was Observed...? b. Post the Formal Scientific Hypothesis then EXPERIMENT that validates your claim...? c. Highlight the "Independent Variable" that was used in the TEST...? d. Post the Null Hypothesis that was Rejected/Falsified...? 3. Scientifically Validate 13 Billion Years...? (See: The Scientific Method above). 4. Show a 'singularity' in Scripture...? 5. Post a PIC of this 'black hole'...? regards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted December 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Enoch2021 said: 1. astronomy isn't "Science" and astronomers aren't "Scientists". 2. Scientifically Validate "black holes"... a. What Phenomenon was Observed...? b. Post the Formal Scientific Hypothesis then EXPERIMENT that validates your claim...? c. Highlight the "Independent Variable" that was used in the TEST...? d. Post the Null Hypothesis that was Rejected/Falsified...? 3. Scientifically Validate 13 Billion Years...? (See: The Scientific Method above). 4. Show a 'singularity' in Scripture...? 5. Post a PIC of this 'black hole'...? regards I'm not posting any of that and your numbered lists are really tiresome . I refer you to the article. It's all in there except for a photo of the black hole. Astronomers ARE scientists....you are not. If you know Scripture you know that God spoke everything into being. His word was the singularity. Not hard to figure out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch2021 Posted December 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,396 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 730 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/26/1963 Share Posted December 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, MorningGlory said: I'm not posting any of that and your numbered lists are really tiresome . Yes, because you can't SUPPORT your PARROTED Claims. Quote I refer you to the article. They can't SUPPORT them either. Quote It's all in there except for a photo of the black hole. What's a Black Hole?? Then Scientifically Validate... a. What Phenomenon was Observed...?b. Post the Formal Scientific Hypothesis then EXPERIMENT that validates your claim...?c. Highlight the "Independent Variable" that was used in the TEST...?d. Post the Null Hypothesis that was Rejected/Falsified...? Quote Astronomers ARE scientists... Really WHY...? Do you understand the Concept of SUPPORTING what you say, by chance? Juxtapose (Compare and Contrast) SUPPORTED Claims vs Baseless 'bare' Assertions...? Quote you are not. My University Transcripts and Professional Evaluations would beg to differ. Quote If you know Scripture you know that God spoke everything into being. Yes, that's Correct. Quote His word was the singularity. So God's Word is the big bang's "Singularity", eh? Quote Not hard to figure out. How did you figure that one out, por favor...? Illustrate your 'Method'...? regards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to3 Posted December 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,181 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 3,070 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, MorningGlory said: I'm not posting any of that and your numbered Why? because you don't have any? if so prove it. 1 hour ago, MorningGlory said: Astronomers ARE scientists....you are not. Are you? Is this not a discussion? 1 hour ago, MorningGlory said: If you know Scripture From all that I have seen that Enoch2021 presents, he knows his subject very very well, and gives always biblical references as proof. I never see you at any given time give any biblical proof in going against Enoch's findings in the bible. Just verbal dismissals. Perhaps because you cannot find any? 3 hours ago, Enoch2021 said: 4. Show a 'singularity' in Scripture...? Enoch2021 is quite thorough concerning bible facts, and Is so appreciated for his intelligent responses . Thank you enoch2021, for keeping Gods Word as our defense against this worlds ways of deception. In Christ Jesus Always; regards Edited December 22, 2017 by 1to3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted December 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 22, 2017 Black holes are simply God's created universe. I will leave that to Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted December 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Enoch2021 said: Yes, because you can't SUPPORT your PARROTED Claims. They can't SUPPORT them either. What's a Black Hole?? Then Scientifically Validate... a. What Phenomenon was Observed...?b. Post the Formal Scientific Hypothesis then EXPERIMENT that validates your claim...?c. Highlight the "Independent Variable" that was used in the TEST...?d. Post the Null Hypothesis that was Rejected/Falsified...? Really WHY...? Do you understand the Concept of SUPPORTING what you say, by chance? Juxtapose (Compare and Contrast) SUPPORTED Claims vs Baseless 'bare' Assertions...? My University Transcripts and Professional Evaluations would beg to differ. Yes, that's Correct. So God's Word is the big bang's "Singularity", eh? How did you figure that one out, por favor...? Illustrate your 'Method'...? regards The 'method' would have to be explained by the scientists who made these observations. Your constant repeating yourself will not convince anyone that you are a 'scientist'. If you challenge these observations please contact those who made them. I know that God created the universe, He spoke everything into being, and that is that. You are hardly qualified to dispute the claims of those who study these things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted December 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, 1to3 said: Why? because you don't have any? if so prove it. Are you? Is this not a discussion? From all that I have seen that Enoch2021 presents, he knows his subject very very well, and gives always biblical references as proof. I never see you at any given time give any biblical proof in going against Enoch's findings in the bible. Just verbal dismissals. Perhaps because you cannot find any? Enoch2021 is quite thorough concerning bible facts, and Is so appreciated for his intelligent responses . Thank you enoch2021, for keeping Gods Word as our defense against this worlds ways of deception. In Christ Jesus Always; regards None of that was addressed to you but yes, this is a discussion. Unlike others here, I don't pretend to be a scientist and post endless pontification on why I know everything. I stand by what I post and if you don't agree with it....not my problem. Those who can't believe anything but their own words live in a very small world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch2021 Posted December 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,396 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 730 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/26/1963 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, MorningGlory said: The 'method' would have to be explained by the scientists who made these observations. So you're PARROTING what you've been told without Due Diligence. Quote Your constant repeating yourself will not convince anyone that you are a 'scientist'. If they can't figure it out in less than a Planck Time by the mere content of my posts...they have more "Pressing Issues". Quote If you challenge these observations please contact those who made them. I have for the Past 12 Years...they just call me names . You're PARROTING these Claims as TRUTH, so I challenged you to validate them. ps. It's NOT "My" Job to Validate "YOUR" PARROTINGS. Quote You are hardly qualified to dispute the claims of those who study these things. I'm actually More Qualified than them because I know what ACTUAL "Science" is; whereas, they do not. regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted December 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Enoch2021 said: . I'm actually More Qualified than them because I know what ACTUAL "Science" is; whereas, they do not. regards Wow, then one would think you would be all in the news, huh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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