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10 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi iamlamad,

The 2,300 days is needed to establish the beginning and thus the end of the trib. otherwise those other numbers just `float` around. The 2,300 days gives us 220 days prior = the 7 months Israel takes to cleanse the land of bodies (Russian War) before they start their sacrifices.

Then we can place the 1,290 days for the cleansing of the temple and then we clearly see that when the Lord returns, 1,260 days makes the trib, shortened by 1 month. All these are firmly in place by these two markers -

1. The Passover date, 14th of the Jewish New Year (Nissan)

2. Exactly 4 weeks prior is the feast of Purim, the celebration of National Deliverance. 15th of Adar. When there are 2 Adars to catch up their calendar then we have 1,290 + 30 + 15. The exact date of the celebration (=`Blessed is he ...1,335 days`)

These two dates firmly give us the exact times of the tribulation.

Marilyn.

I disagree. The 2300 does not fit, and is not needed. We don't need to know when the daily sacrifices begin. John tells us they will stop when the man of sin enters the temple and declares he is god. the temple is then defiled and the daily sacrifices must cease. And that event will be marked in heaven by the 7th vial. From that moment, it will be 1260 days of fleeing. 

But the 1260 days of testifying by the two witnesses will begin 3 1/2 days before the man of sin enters the temple. So their 1260 days will end 3 1/2 days before the week ends with the 7th vial.

We know that there will be an extra 3o days added onto the 1260 days. So SOME EVENT will take place, 30 days after the 7th vial that ends the week. Perhaps that is when Jesus returns. The marriage and supper may just take 30 days. 

Then another event will take place 45 days after that. I don't know what that event will be either. It could be the judgement of the nations. Or it could be the official opening of the millennial reign.  It could be Satan being bound.

 

As for your dates given: do they fit EVERY year, or a particular year? How do you know any part of the 70th week will include the Passover?

Edited by iamlamad

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1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

Perhaps you don't know where the exact midpoint of the week is found in Revelation. Perhaps you just don't know that chapters 11, 12, and 13 are very much midpoint chapters.  The 70th week is "marked" by 7's: the 7th seal begins the week, the 7th trumpet marks the midpoint, and the 7th vial ends it.

In John narrative, 11:1-4 is just 3 1/2 days before the man of sin will enter the temple and declare that he is god - the abomination that Jesus spoke of. And at that moment, the 7th trumpet will sound in heaven marking the midpoint of the week. A second or two later, John is at 12:6 where those in Judea begin to flee. 

But back to chapter 11. Verse two tells us that the city will BEGIN to be trampled for 42 months. This is our first clue that John is near the midpoint. Every one of these  3 1/2 year times, whether given in days, months or times, is for the last half of the week. So we might ask, WHY? What happened in 11:1 - `11:2 that would cause the city to be trampled? I believe it is the man of sin arriving in Jerusalem with His Gentile (think Muslim) armies. AFter all, if he is to enter the temple, he must first arrive in Jerusalem. God then sends the two witnesses, because the man of sin arrived. My guess is, they arrive in Jerusalem seconds after the man of sin arrives. The time? Exactly 3 1/2 days before the abomination event.  So they begin their testimony at that moment, and testify for 1260 days. That takes them to just 3 1/2 days before the 7th vial that ends the week. 

Please understand, 11:4 - 11:13 are written as a parenthesis: John takes us on a side journey down the last half of the week with the Two Witnesses, showing us what will happen. But in verse 14, John snaps right back to the midpoint, and the 7th trumpet sounds, marking the moment the man of sin enters the temple.

So they are killed, just 3 1/2 days before the end of the week. They lay dead for those 3 1/2 days, then rise up at the 7th vial that ends the week. And that is when God raises ALL the Old Testament saints. I believe the two witnesses will be Enoch and Elijah, the two men that have never died. It is appoint to man once to die. 

There is no need to disagree or argue: this is the truth.

If you cared about details, you should fix your name icon... oh and the exact midpoint of 7 years is 3.5 years and from Passover to Feast of Trumpets is 1260 days on a 30-day month calendar.

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"We know that there will be an extra 3o days added onto the 1260 days. So SOME EVENT will take place, 30 days after the 7th vial that ends the week. Perhaps that is when Jesus returns. The marriage and supper may just take 30 days. 

Then another event will take place 45 days after that. I don't know what that event will be either. It could be the judgement of the nations. Or it could be the official opening of the millennial reign.  It could be Satan being bound"

 

The battle of Armageddon war will take place in the 30 day period

Then the Lord will be on the earth and He will separate the mortals from the tribulation period [sheep and goats] in the next 45 days 

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1 hour ago, Abdicate said:

If you cared about details, you should fix your name icon... oh and the exact midpoint of 7 years is 3.5 years and from Passover to Feast of Trumpets is 1260 days on a 30-day month calendar.

I agree on the 3.5 years. That is precisely when the 7th trumpet will sound. 

If indeed, the Jewish feasts fit perfectly with the 1260, 1290 and 1335 days, one might be able to guess which years God is talking about, if these numbers are compared to the Jewish feast dates in our future.

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Correct .... and one does not even have to consider any feast days

Here is the timeline from the beginning

1260 days + 1260 days + 30 days + 45 days

These are based upon the Lord's prophetic time .... a 360 day year and a 30 day month

The Julian calendar is not a part of this calculation

 

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7 hours ago, iamlamad said:

 

As for your dates given: do they fit EVERY year, or a particular year? How do you know any part of the 70th week will include the Passover?

Hi iamlamad,

That is a very relevant question. Firstly the Passover is not in the 70th week but in the New Year (Nissan) and the beginning of the Millennium. The feast celebrating National Deliverance (Purim) is exactly 4 weeks prior, thus linking the dates to the millennium. The 4 weeks connects the time before the millennium to the millennium exactly.

......(1,260)......I.......(30).....I....15th.......I..........14th......>

   Tribulation                                      Purim  (4 weeks)    Passover (Millennium)

 

Now as to `do they fit every year?` Yes the 15th of Adar, Purim, (National Deliverance) is ALWAYS exactly 4 weeks before the 14th of Nissan.

Marilyn. 

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5 hours ago, iamlamad said:

I agree on the 3.5 years. That is precisely when the 7th trumpet will sound. 

If indeed, the Jewish feasts fit perfectly with the 1260, 1290 and 1335 days, one might be able to guess which years God is talking about, if these numbers are compared to the Jewish feast dates in our future.

Hi iamlamad,

I have thought on that also, & here is what I came up with -

SUMMARY OF MAIN EVENTS

The Peace Treaty - Adar 20th

The month of Adar is the time of rejoicing of deliverance from enemies. It is the last month of the Jewish year and the happiest in the calendar. This rejoicing will be after God deals with the Russian Federation of Israel`s mountains.                                                   

The Temple Sacrifices - Cheshvan 4th

The month of Cheshvan is the only month that does not have a holiday but is reserved for the time of the Messiah to inaugurate the third temple. This will be appropriate for Israel to prepare by starting their sacrifices.                                                                                                                        

The Temple Desecration - Av 11th

The month of Av is when Israel mourns the destruction of its temple. Sadly this will be when the anti-Christ sets up the Abomination in their temple, thus desecrating it.                                              

Jesus` Return - Tevet 29th

The month of Tevet is a time of mourning when Israel mourns and repents for the armies of Babylon who laid siege to Jerusalem. This is exactly what will happen when all the armies of the world surround Jerusalem.                                                                                                                                                                                       

The Temple Cleansing - Shevat 30th

The month of Shevat makes the beginning of a `new year` for trees. It is the season in which the earliest-blooming trees emerge from their winter sleep. This can only happen when the Lord brings forth the living waters from under the Mount of Olives, bringing life giving water throughout the land. This water then will be used to cleanse the temple, priests and vessels.                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

Celebrating - Adar (2) 15th

The month of Adar & also the double Adar (leap year) is the time of celebration of victory of their enemies. (Purim)  Most appropriate for the Lord`s deliverance of the nation of Israel.

 

regards, Marilyn.

 

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5 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

Correct .... and one does not even have to consider any feast days

Here is the timeline from the beginning

1260 days + 1260 days + 30 days + 45 days

These are based upon the Lord's prophetic time .... a 360 day year and a 30 day month

The Julian calendar is not a part of this calculation

 

Now this I can agree with! Good job.

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7 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

"We know that there will be an extra 3o days added onto the 1260 days. So SOME EVENT will take place, 30 days after the 7th vial that ends the week. Perhaps that is when Jesus returns. The marriage and supper may just take 30 days. 

Then another event will take place 45 days after that. I don't know what that event will be either. It could be the judgement of the nations. Or it could be the official opening of the millennial reign.  It could be Satan being bound"

 

The battle of Armageddon war will take place in the 30 day period

Then the Lord will be on the earth and He will separate the mortals from the tribulation period [sheep and goats] in the next 45 days 

Unless the marriage and supper takes up the full 30 days. Then His Coming would be the event 30 days after the 7th vial.. 

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Let's note that the Lord never goes away .... He is always engaged and is watching now

There is no scripture defining when the marriage supper will take place or how long it will last

Revelation 19:1-11 tells about this gathering and it will take place first just before the Lord brings His judgment and wrath against a world of unbelief .... the 70th week decreed for Israel

Those who partake at the marriage supper will come to the earth with the Lord to fight at the battle of Armageddon which will take place in 30 days at the end of the 70th week [Zechariah 14:4-5; Revelation 19:14]

Then He will be seen on the earth and He will separate all of the mortal survivors of the tribulation period into those that will enter His millennial kingdom, and those that will not

 

Edited by Daniel 11:36

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