Spock Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 5“So when you see standing in the HOLY PLACE ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’a spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. (Matt 24) 27He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’h In the middle of the ‘seven’i he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the TEMPLE he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.k ” (dan 9) 4He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in GOD’s TEMPLE proclaiming himself to be God. (2 thess 2) Pretty clear to me friend. What do these passages mean to you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 Daniel, i see what you are getting at, but the word doesn’t say Satan =Gog. When it says Gog is buried in it does not say he is buried in the abyss. It names the place that it is called and does not say ABYSS. I don’t see how this can be Satan. On that day I will give Gog a burial place in Israel, in the valley of those who travel east of the Sea. It will block the way of travelers, because Gog and all his hordes will be buried there. So it will be called the Valley of Hamon Gog.b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2018 http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-31.htm Lets start with this little verse right here. Who does Daniel write sets up the abomination that causes desolation in this verse? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2018 The individual in the passage is Abaddon/Apolloyn in the little human horn of Daniel's visions It is the Lord who confirms the covenant that He has with the believing remnant of Israel .... and it is the other prince, the antichrist who will come to desecrate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2018 "i see what you are getting at, but the word doesn’t say Satan =Gog." Keep studying your Bible and you will see that "Gog" is definitely Satan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, Daniel 11:36 said: The individual in the passage is Abaddon/Apolloyn in the little human horn of Daniel's visions It is the Lord who confirms the covenant that He has with the believing remnant of Israel .... and it is the other prince, the antichrist who will come to desecrate Im asking spock to look at the verse and tell me who that verse say sets up the abomination that causes desolation. TY for you input but you are incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-31.htm Lets start with this little verse right here. Who does Daniel write sets up the abomination that causes desolation in this verse? Daniel has a bunch of near far things going on throughout the book. The passage you cited I believe is not related to Antichrist and his abomination but rather the time of Antiochus Ephipanes before Christ. It appears to me v. 36 made a change to now talking “far”.....the Antichrist. Edited January 9, 2018 by Spock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Rick_Parker said: This may be the order, but nothing has to happen before the Rapture. Thanks for answering, Rick. i hear what you are saying about no signs are needed for the rapture to occur, but can you be more specific here. Do you see the RAPTURE as the next event, or do you see something else? For example, before 1948, if you said the RAPTURE can occur next, is that really true? No, Israel had to become a nation agsin, right? So that event had to happen before the rapture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2018 37 minutes ago, Spock said: Daniel has a bunch of near far things going on throughout the book. The passage you cited I believe is not related to Antichrist and his abomination but rather the time of Antiochus Ephipanes before Christ. It appears to me v. 36 made a change to now talking “far”.....the Antichrist. Well,Im sorry you cant understand Daniels writings Spock.There's not that many that can. The answer is"his armed forces". His armed forces sets up the abomination that causes dedolation. I would go on to show you more but i dont believe you would be able to understand those either so theres no use. We will see how it turns out as it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2018 Ps.I believe hes already in the midst of the temple of God Spock .That's why Im not looking for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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