GreyDestiny Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 131 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 59 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/08/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) I read a website/article recently that made some decent points. The link is below. http://www.cjfm.org/resources/statements/should-christians-keep-kosher/ (Sorry. I just couldn't be bothered to type it all out myself.) In any case, I was wondering what thoughts any of you might have on the matter. Edited January 9, 2018 by GreyDestiny A misspelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2018 This subject has been discussed by many here over the years. IMO, we are not bound by the old dietary laws followed by the Jews. The Bible tells us what is okay for us to eat. From compellingtruth.org: Christians get their guidance from the New Testament, which highlights which Jewish ceremonial laws we are to keep. The first clue comes in Acts 10:9-16. Peter went to a rooftop to pray and became hungry. He fell into a trance. The sky opened, and a sheet, filled with all kinds of animals, was lowered in front of him. A voice said, "Rise, Peter; kill and eat." But Peter, thinking it was a test, protested, "By no means, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean." This happened three times. The vision was two-sided. In the literal sense, Peter was released from the Jewish dietary law. Christ-followers did not have to keep Jewish ceremonial law because Jesus fulfilled it. In the metaphorical sense, it was one more lesson on how Jesus was for everyone, and the Jewish Christians needed to witness to the Gentiles, as well. So it is that Christians are not bound by the dietary restrictions in Leviticus 11. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4LdKHVCzRDj2 Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,453 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 1,453 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/02/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1991 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, MorningGlory said: So it is that Christians are not bound by the dietary restrictions This is the only food restriction I am aware of. "But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood." - Genesis 9:4 "Only you shall not eat its blood; you shall pour it on the ground like water." - Deuteronomy 15:23 "that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell." - Acts 15:29 And do not love food too much, keep away from gluttony. "Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience" - Colossians 3:5-6 Edited January 9, 2018 by 4LdKHVCzRDj2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 10, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.34 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 10, 2018 5 hours ago, MorningGlory said: This subject has been discussed by many here over the years. IMO, we are not bound by the old dietary laws followed by the Jews. The Bible tells us what is okay for us to eat. From compellingtruth.org: Christians get their guidance from the New Testament, which highlights which Jewish ceremonial laws we are to keep. The first clue comes in Acts 10:9-16. Peter went to a rooftop to pray and became hungry. He fell into a trance. The sky opened, and a sheet, filled with all kinds of animals, was lowered in front of him. A voice said, "Rise, Peter; kill and eat." But Peter, thinking it was a test, protested, "By no means, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean." This happened three times. The vision was two-sided. In the literal sense, Peter was released from the Jewish dietary law. Christ-followers did not have to keep Jewish ceremonial law because Jesus fulfilled it. In the metaphorical sense, it was one more lesson on how Jesus was for everyone, and the Jewish Christians needed to witness to the Gentiles, as well. So it is that Christians are not bound by the dietary restrictions in Leviticus 11. FOR it is not what goes into the man that defiles the man. ITS WHAT COMES OUT OF THE HEART , the INSDIE , thefts , adultery , fornication, SINS. BEHOLD all things are clean unto you. Wasn't talking about sin, was FOOD. however , I know many whose conscious wont allow them to eat certain foods. And if it aint in faith.........IT IS SIN . tis why I wont argue over who eats what or don't . That is their own conscious. foods,drinks, days. STOP THE PRESS but those are it . THE REST IS SIN of the sinnny sin sin . And it will get rebuked. but as for days meats drinks, not my concern what one eats or don't eat. But mark that temple or even think about it ................OH NO...................I warn out against tattoes and etc . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joulre2abba Posted January 11, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 463 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 175 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/08/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 1:07 PM, GreyDestiny said: I read a website/article recently that made some decent points. The link is below. http://www.cjfm.org/resources/statements/should-christians-keep-kosher/ (Sorry. I just couldn't be bothered to type it all out myself.) In any case, I was wondering what thoughts any of you might have on the matter. I didn't take the time to read the link because I'm here to comment on what I currently know and maybe later read an article online. I guess that's a longer way to say that I couldn't be bothered to go and read it before I comment. Such a question might come from those Christians who strive to be legalists, or consider that all Christians should be so extremely converted by accepting the Jewish roots and in all but natural birth be Jewish. However, the Methodist upbringing that I have been raised under didn't hear of such things from the pulpit. In the new testament the apostle Paul distinctly stated that all things to eat are permissible. Because he was talking to gentile Christians under grace. Even Paul a messianic Jew, was by grace- free to eat non kosher foods. The only stipulation that he put on it was to refrain from exercising your freedom when sitting next to a kosher believing believer who was eating kosher food during the church meals. Same reason why wine or beer drinkers don't drink sitting next to teetotalers. Or, maybe the rude one's do. So in true methodist fashion, eat what you like, and don't eat what you don't like. It's advisable not to eat what would not be very healthy. For instance my mother fixed ham plenty of times, and I've always cooked ham for the holidays. I know, any Jew that heard that, the thought of them doing it, they would die of shock on the spot then roll over in their grave. Well anyway, I thought that as long as I drowned it with pineapple juice and smothered it with brown sugar.. such delicious flavor would make it ridiculous not to eat it. But then I read on the internet how unhealthy it is no matter how it's cooked. I have considered that the person was using extreme hyperbole (if there is such a thing) just to convince others to stop eating it because they don't eat it. But in my autumn years I have cut down on fixing it for the holidays. Or maybe it was just because I didn't have a decent crockpot for those years. But since I now have another crockpot I've been considering again to fixing a ham in it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted January 11, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2018 Why did the Apostle Paul say he refrained from eating meat ? (in the NT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted January 11, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,808 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,791 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, simplejeff said: Why did the Apostle Paul say he refrained from eating meat ? (in the NT) He didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted January 11, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2018 After you read Paul's Own Letters, come back again to discuss why he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted January 11, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,808 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,791 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2018 He said not to fight over things that don't matter. [Romans 14] He said some people will eat all food and the weak will eat only vegetables. He said some will regard one day of the week as more important and other will view each day the same. He said don't be a stumbling block to the weak. He said if your eating meat [specifically meat offered to idols and sold later in the market] offends someone then don't eat it. He said if whatever you are drinking offends someone then don't drink it. He said that the Christian life was not about what you ate or drank. He also said he was all things to all people. I'm sure there were times he abstained from particular cuts of meat and times he gobbled it down with gusto. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 11, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.82 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2018 That is a choice. Christians can eat kosher if they want. It is healthy but the Bible does not tell us that we need to eat kosher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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