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The verses before the ones you posted.

1 thes 4

13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.

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2 hours ago, BeyondET said:

Hmm I personally attack you because I said I don't expect you to understand that is not a personal attack.

death rather it be a day or a thousand years to God their not dead but asleep, and will be awoken on judgement day, those who have done good will have life for ever.

Help me understand your reasoning them.  We have had no deep conversation for you to even know what I would think, so to me, you are prejudging me for some reason, attacking my understanding for no reason.  The attack is implying I don't have the ability to understand what you are saying.

I do understand that some see soul sleep as an existence between the time we take our last breath and being caught up to be with the Lord.  What I was addressing was that you implied the time frame  between the rapture and the New Heaven and New Earth being brought in as a time of sleep.  I can list this for you if you wish.

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13 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Pharaoh (par'oh) Strong's #6547 Egyptian King.

Other sources (Pharaoh) sun-god, the great house.

What do you know I'm missing? 

The story is from Jasher I think.  Wise man gave ruler a good money spinner idea. Charge for burial.

The title for this is pharaoh. Means grave keeper in original language.

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10 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

The story is from Jasher I think.  Wise man gave ruler a good money spinner idea. Charge for burial.

The title for this is pharaoh. Means grave keeper in original language.

Hum, never heard that before?

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29 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Hum, never heard that before?

It is a very old story and right now I cannot find it. I will keep looking but certain things I could search just five years ago seem to have been taken down. Somebody else was mentioning that recently. So if you find something, copy and save it.

Wow. Found it. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/jasher/14.htm

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5 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

It is a very old story and right now I cannot find it. I will keep looking but certain things I could search just five years ago seem to have been taken down. Somebody else was mentioning that recently. So if you find something, copy and save it.

Roger that.

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4 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

It is a very old story and right now I cannot find it. I will keep looking but certain things I could search just five years ago seem to have been taken down. Somebody else was mentioning that recently. So if you find something, copy and save it.

Yes,  this is widespread (on and off the internet).  Even for good software,  or other items online/ on computer/  used to expect they would still be available for years,   suddenly gone,

so for anything useful / helpful/ informative/  best to burn a copy to cd or dvd ,  to keep off line in case needed later.

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4 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Yes,  this is widespread (on and off the internet).  Even for good software,  or other items online/ on computer/  used to expect they would still be available for years,   suddenly gone,

so for anything useful / helpful/ informative/  best to burn a copy to cd or dvd ,  to keep off line in case needed later.

What is more so, is that the search engines mess with you. They are extremely biased in some areas. It is infuriating. Nothing that is on the web is ever removed (like our memories) but accessing them is very very hard. Unless I knew what to look for I would not have found that text file for Dennis1209.

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