listener24 Posted January 12, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 43 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 650 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/23/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2018 Since I'm on this forum I'm reading countless threads about "keeping the Sabbath" (that's quite surprising cause I've never heard about these discussions elsewhere before, didn't know it was such an "hot topic" or relevant one in Christianity). My question is: what does it mean to "keep the Sabbath"? What a believer should practically do on Saturday to "keep the Sabbath"? I've no idea about it because I usually read the Gospel and I don't find any indication on how a believer should concretely "keep the Sabbath", in other words I don't find any description on what's so special that a believer should do on Saturday, and not on Monday or Wednesday, in Jesus' words (let alone Thursday). Nor I find anything special that Jesus was doing on Saturday, except doing the exact same things He was doing on other days, like Friday, and this way making some Pharisees angry because they didn't want Him to perform the same things He was doing on other days. (Mark 3:2, John 5:16-17, Matthew 12:10, and so on, like: "So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute him. In his defense Jesus said to them, "My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.") So I sincerely don't know what someone should do to "keep the Sabbath", after reading every single Jesus' word in the Gospel, I don't find even a clue in His words. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4LdKHVCzRDj2 Posted January 12, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 17 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,453 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 1,453 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/02/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1991 Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, listener24 said: What a believer should practically do on Saturday to "keep the Sabbath"? Nowadays, to keep the Sabbath means to follow the Lord Jesus. And no one can keep the Sabbath (as stated by the Law of Moses) by going to church on Saturday or doing nothing on Saturday. Â But satan insists in bringing this topic of Sabbath to cause dissensions in the body. Wake up, people! We are saved by grace, through faith:Â https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/217233-by-grace-we-have-been-saved-through-faith/ "Do not despise prophecies. Test all things; hold fast what is good." - 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 Â God bless you, in Jesus' name! Edited January 12, 2018 by 4LdKHVCzRDj2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Justin Adams Posted January 12, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 26 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,602 Content Per Day: 4.02 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) Aha. The Sabbath thing is the tip of a very dangerous iceberg. You see it boils down to this: either keep the law and the commandments, or do not. Simple. Detractors since the first century hated Jews and Israelis so much that they passed laws to oppose the Sabbath and therefore God's laws. They hated them because they would not accept the poly-theistic romans. They spoke out against any but the Law and Commandments given by the WORD. Yes the WORD gave us the law and then showed us how to observe them. Modern day pseudo-romans keep the dictates of rome though they do not realize it. They then fight tooth and nail to defend their indefensable position. They twist all kinds of scriptural spins to try and prove we do not have to keep Sabbath. Just try to observe Sabbath by not doing what you normally do any other workday. Just like Yeshua demonstrated. Do not Judaize it with a bunch of added ordinances that were done away with at the cross. Just follow the Lord God's ideas and Commandments. That yoke is easy. Following man's ideas will lead into the ditch. Americans and most westerners hate to follow laws. They think they are free to take what they like and forget the rest. Yahweh is not impressed with that I can see by actual study. We owe our Father the respect due to Him. People will fuss and say the new covenant replaced the old etc. However, the eastern mindset has ALWAYS been to layer covenants not replace them. Yahweh is not so short-sighted as to have 'forgotten' what He decreed in the past. Edited January 12, 2018 by Justin Adams 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted January 12, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) I usually keep out of sabbath debates..  The OT law regarding the sabbath was to do no customary work on the Sabbath day.. So basically the sabbath day was a day of rest.. The Biblical Sabbath day starts at Friday sundown and ends at Friday sundown.. The Biblical day start at sundown and ends at sundown.. Night first then Day.. I do find it strange when people debate about the day people should attend church and saying it should be on the Sabbath day,, When for any pastor the hardest day of work for them is the day they do their weekly church service..  And a lot of parents have to work really hard to get there kids ready and dressed up for going to church.. So a lot of work is being done on the sabbath day when people want the sabbath day to be the day they congregate.. Edited January 12, 2018 by Adstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted January 12, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 26 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,602 Content Per Day: 4.02 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2018 Addition. By the way, Yeshua (Jesus) gave Moses the Law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Christ IS the Sabbath and we are to rest on Him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 6 hours ago, listener24 said: Since I'm on this forum I'm reading countless threads about "keeping the Sabbath" (that's quite surprising cause I've never heard about these discussions elsewhere before, didn't know it was such an "hot topic" or relevant one in Christianity). My question is: what does it mean to "keep the Sabbath"? What a believer should practically do on Saturday to "keep the Sabbath"? I've no idea about it because I usually read the Gospel and I don't find any indication on how a believer should concretely "keep the Sabbath", in other words I don't find any description on what's so special that a believer should do on Saturday, and not on Monday or Wednesday, in Jesus' words (let alone Thursday). Nor I find anything special that Jesus was doing on Saturday, except doing the exact same things He was doing on other days, like Friday, and this way making some Pharisees angry because they didn't want Him to perform the same things He was doing on other days. (Mark 3:2, John 5:16-17, Matthew 12:10, and so on, like: "So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute him. In his defense Jesus said to them, "My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.") So I sincerely don't know what someone should do to "keep the Sabbath", after reading every single Jesus' word in the Gospel, I don't find even a clue in His words. Don't we have enough "Sabbath" threads on the boards?   Can't just post in an existing thread that is about keeping the Sabbath.  Apparently, Sabbath keepers are not content that we are happy to let them keep the Sabbath and not bother them, that we will let them alone to do as they see fit.  No, they have to come on here and start 50 threads about the Sabbath to impose it on the rest of us. If the Sabbath keepers want to keep the Sabbath and drone on about it, then they need to start up their own Sabbath keeping message board and leave the rest of us alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listener24 Posted January 12, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 43 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 650 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/23/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Don't we have enough "Sabbath" threads on the boards?   Can't just post in an existing thread that is about keeping the Sabbath.  Apparently, Sabbath keepers are not content that we are happy to let them keep the Sabbath and not bother them, that we will let them alone to do as they see fit.  No, they have to come on here and start 50 threads about the Sabbath to impose it on the rest of us. If the Sabbath keepers want to keep the Sabbath and drone on about it, then they need to start up their own Sabbath keeping message board and leave the rest of us alone. I was asking what does it practically mean to keep it. Most of the other threads talk about whether to keep it or not, this one talks about "what does it mean to keep it". Please read the description. Ps I'm not a Sabbath keeper and I don't mind about the issue, but I'm curious to know what does it practically mean to keep it for "Sabbath" keepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, listener24 said: I was asking what does it practically mean to keep it. Most of the other threads talk about whether to keep it or not, this one talks about "what does it mean to keep it". Please read the description. Ps I'm not a Sabbath keeper and I don't mind about the issue, but I'm curious to know what does it practically mean to keep it for "Sabbath" keepers. You could have asked that question in an existing thread. That question did not deserve it's own thread. This obsession with Sabbath stuff is getting really annoying and we don't need others contributing to it. Edited January 12, 2018 by shiloh357 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listener24 Posted January 12, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 43 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 650 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/23/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/12/2018 at 7:37 PM, shiloh357 said: You could have asked that question in an existing thread. That question did not deserve it's own thread. This obsession with Sabbath stuff is getting really annoying and we don't need others contributing to it. 1 You can make this comment under the tons of identical threads that, differently from this, just asks "should we keep it or not"? There are tons, so feel free to comment there what you are commenting here. This one is actually different though, and I made it because like you I'm surprised how much the issue is discussed, while it may have no practical applications. And btw, according to you reasoning, feel free to post this same comment under the tens of thousands "once saved always saved" threads too. Seems like there is quite an abundance of them too, but I haven't noticed you going under them and say "hey guys, discuss this in one of the thousands already opened" on that topic.  4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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