other one Posted April 9, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,047 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,788 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted April 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Betha said: friend, you may still be in the OT/OC....I am not ! Heb 2v10, for we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus unto good works which God has before ordained that we should walk in them. The new Covenant is built on better promises with God's law/commandments written on hearts of flesh. The new Covenant is built on better promises and with new commandments..... not the old that would not save.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter and Deborah Posted April 9, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 14 Topic Count: 2,231 Topics Per Day: 0.50 Content Count: 4,356 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,030 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/13/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1947 Share Posted April 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, other one said: so you say I'll go to hell if I don't observe the sabbath.... is that what you are saying. Salvation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPassingThru Posted April 9, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,979 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,112 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Betha said: IF God changed the day then Yashua/Jesus did not know about it . for HE went to church on the Sabbath day ...always had done Lk 4v16. What better example is there ? Exactly!!! You hit the nail on the head!!! What better example...., Jesus observed the Sabbath, yes you are absolutely correct, ...until He was crucified, ...after His Resurrection there is not any record that He ever went back, ...however there is recorded in Scripture that He sent the Holy Spirit to Church on the first day of the week, ...thus authenticating that is was Jesus that changed the day: But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 14:26 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. John 20:19 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight. Acts 20:7 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 1 Cor 16:2 Surely you won't/can't say the Father and the Holy Spirit are disobeying THEIR Commandment concerning the Sabbath by Worshiping on the first day of the week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPassingThru Posted April 9, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,979 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,112 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 9, 2019 5 hours ago, pinacled said: Have you ever considered that the letter that killeth', is the certificate/letter of divorce? Not really, don't you think in the correct context, as Paul was using it, he was speaking of the Law of Moses: Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. 2 Cop 3:6 Paul was saying he was a minister, not of the formal, written ordinance of the Old Covenant, ...he was comparing it with the Gospel, which is “spirit and life.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPassingThru Posted April 9, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,979 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,112 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, pinacled said: The Ruach hakodosh is given on shavuot shalom. 7 weeks from a certain pesach. If the Shabbat moves in cycles throughout a given yr. Perhaps there is a day and yr given focus with patience and gentlness also. So that the poor will have all they need. After all, 'even flowers of the field.......' But you are forgetting what God told Moses and Aaron: The LORD said to Moses and Aaron in Egypt, "This month will be the very first month of the year for you. Exo 12:1,2 Tell the whole community of Israel: On the tenth day of this month each man must take a lamb or a young goat for his family-one animal per household. Exo 12:3 God ordained His calendar for them, then He prescribed the exact days for certain events, ...this worked until the long day of Joshua, then the year was changed to 365 1/4 days, ...surely you can see the tenth day of the month that God ordained at the beginning no longer fell on the same day as it did with a 360 day year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPassingThru Posted April 9, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,979 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,112 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, pinacled said: How then do you suppose to reconcile where ole sh'aul also said that the Torah/law is holy? I'm sorry, I really can't believe you can even think these kind of things, let alone say them! I know the Law is Holy, ...I was such a rotten sinner and also smart enough to know that I could never keep the Law, ...Praise be to Almighty God that He opened my ears and my heart 33 years ago to hear and understand His Gospel Message, I believed it, received it and was saved by Grace, ...not of works, ...lest any should boast!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 9, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,047 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,788 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, pinacled said: The covenant built on better promises is built on no new command. " All of the torah/law and prophets hang on......? Those that serve these two, feed the sheep 10 as an ordinant, ' royal priesthood. All provisions in order. wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 9, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,047 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,788 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Walter and Deborah said: Salvation why is it that you won't just answer that question. So am I going to hell for not observing the sabbath 4th commandment or not??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 10, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,047 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,788 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted April 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, pinacled said: Essentially its possible you are lacking somewhere in the spirit. Yeshua offers freely to all those who seek the 4th day covenant. The Holy praise of blessing the good soil promised since the beginning. and there is nothing wrong with you keeping it but is not right for you to demand it of others at the cost of their souls... and so far in my 72 years is always where this conversation ends up. so I ask you also, will I go to hell if I don't observe the 4th commandment as written in Exodus?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 10, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,047 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,788 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted April 10, 2019 11 hours ago, pinacled said: Is that 72 yrs a cryptic defense compatible to names of idols? Empty all 72 arrows and what is a person left with. Consider the will and wisdom of those with a full quiver. And much more those with a shield of faith on their backs. If you would like. I consider sharpening iron with iron to be a privledge. But first you will need to learn how to sheath a sword. I see you follow the old process of if you can't get your point across just dazzle folks with BS. and you can use iron if you like but being a knife person I can tell you that a rock works better, and even more so with some good honing oil... When the conversation comes to the BS level it's time to end 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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