Guest shiloh357 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 38 minutes ago, OldSchool2 said: I am not a forensic psychiatrist, and neither are you. But Dr. Lee is, and she has a wealth of material to make assessments from as Trump can't stop tweeting. She cannot make an assessment based on tweets or TV or anything else. She has to examine him, personally. That's just how it's done professionally, like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted January 16, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.22 Reputation: 11,242 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, OldSchool2 said: I am not a forensic psychiatrist, and neither are you. But Dr. Lee is, and she has a wealth of material to make assessments from as Trump can't stop tweeting. Huh. When I googled forensic psychiatry, it clearly states that the forensic psychiatrist has to examine the person face to face. Not based on random tweets on social media. Forensic psychiatrists also give their opinions at criminal trials, which is not the case here either. Trump has not committed any crime, except that of being trump in the minds of some folks. So she is not qualified to make the "assessment" you say she is. The assessment that was claimed to be a diagnosis in other threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 17, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, ayin jade said: Huh. When I googled forensic psychiatry, it clearly states that the forensic psychiatrist has to examine the person face to face. Not based on random tweets on social media. Forensic psychiatrists also give their opinions at criminal trials, which is not the case here either. Trump has not committed any crime, except that of being trump in the minds of some folks. So she is not qualified to make the "assessment" you say she is. The assessment that was claimed to be a diagnosis in other threads. She would have the psychiatric training to mentally evaluate Donald Trump. She is a specialist in the field of psychiatry.She has gone on to a residency of treating people with disorders of the mind. This person can give their opinion but it would be best for a team of Psychiatry experts in their field to sit down with Trump face to face and do this evaluation and testing. But I do not think that Trump will ever agree to a psychiatric evaluation. I can see him sitting down with a doctor who has examined him physically and told us that Donald trump is in physical good health. I don't know if they can force him to get a mental evaluation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted January 17, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted January 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, missmuffet said: She would have the psychiatric training to mentally evaluate Donald Trump. She is a specialist in the field of psychiatry.She has gone on to a residency of treating people with disorders of the mind. This person can give their opinion but it would be best for a team of Psychiatry experts in their field to sit down with Trump face to face and do this evaluation and testing. But I do not think that Trump will ever agree to a psychiatric evaluation. I can see him sitting down with a doctor who has examined him physically and told us that Donald trump is in physical good health. I don't know if they can force him to get a mental evaluation. I guess the guy who evaluated trump face to face is of no importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, missmuffet said: She would have the psychiatric training to mentally evaluate Donald Trump. She is a specialist in the field of psychiatry.She has gone on to a residency of treating people with disorders of the mind. This person can give their opinion but it would be best for a team of Psychiatry experts in their field to sit down with Trump face to face and do this evaluation and testing. But I do not think that Trump will ever agree to a psychiatric evaluation. I can see him sitting down with a doctor who has examined him physically and told us that Donald trump is in physical good health. I don't know if they can force him to get a mental evaluation. If a full-on psychiatrist evaluated Trump and found him not to be mentally ill, what you would say at that point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, hmbld said: I guess the guy who evaluated trump face to face is of no importance. He is of no importance because he didn't deliver the results that Trump's critics wanted. I remember when doctors told my parents that my dad's lower leg would have to be amputated. Suddenly, the doctors were "stupid" because they gave a report that my parents didn't like. They ranted on about how dumb doctors are today simply because they didn't want to accept reality. That's what we have, here. Doctors who are skilled at their jobs are suddenly unqualified because they say that Trump shows no sign of mental illness. If a full-on psychiatrist who graduated with honors and has been in practice for 25 years says that Trump is not mentally ill, they will argue that he was only in practice for 25 years, and someone in practice for 50 years would be more qualified. It's just getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted January 17, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.22 Reputation: 11,242 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 52 minutes ago, missmuffet said: She would have the psychiatric training to mentally evaluate Donald Trump. She is a specialist in the field of psychiatry.She has gone on to a residency of treating people with disorders of the mind. This person can give their opinion but it would be best for a team of Psychiatry experts in their field to sit down with Trump face to face and do this evaluation and testing. But I do not think that Trump will ever agree to a psychiatric evaluation. I can see him sitting down with a doctor who has examined him physically and told us that Donald trump is in physical good health. I don't know if they can force him to get a mental evaluation. 1)Trump asked for one. 2) I showed how her so called evaluations are not valid since it was outside the scope of her practice and outside the standards of her field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 17, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, ayin jade said: 1)Trump asked for one. 2) I showed how her so called evaluations are not valid since it was outside the scope of her practice and outside the standards of her field. So If Trump asked for a psychiatric evaluation then it will happen? No, it is not outside her field. She is a psychiatrist. If she were an endocrinologist it would be outside her field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 17, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 17, 2018 38 minutes ago, hmbld said: I guess the guy who evaluated trump face to face is of no importance. It is of importance for a physical evaluation. That is not what the law makers are asking for. They want a psychiatric evaluation. That is very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted January 17, 2018 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, missmuffet said: So If Trump asked for a psychiatric evaluation then it will happen? No, it is not outside her field. She is a psychiatrist. If she were an endocrinologist it would be outside her field. It is outside the standards of her profession, though. The professional standards specifically delineate that psychiatrists should never evaluate a public figure and provide opinions without having personally examined him. Why would anyone trust the opinion of someone who is so blatantly violating the professional ethics that are explicitly described by their professional association and which they agreed to in order to become a part of that profession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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