ayin jade Posted January 24, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,784 Content Per Day: 6.23 Reputation: 11,227 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 3 hours ago, OldSchool2 said: Link? This is the US news section, and the burden of proof is on the poster who made the claim. https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/217751-pope-shocks-chile-by-accusing-sex-abuse-victims-of-slander/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted January 24, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted January 24, 2018 4 hours ago, ayin jade said: https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/217751-pope-shocks-chile-by-accusing-sex-abuse-victims-of-slander/ "... Francis said that until he sees proof that Bishop Juan Barros was complicit in covering up the sex crimes of the Rev. Fernando Karadima, such accusations against Barros are 'all calumny.'" Since when has "presumption of innocence" been a "personal trait"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted January 24, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,784 Content Per Day: 6.23 Reputation: 11,227 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, OldSchool2 said: "... Francis said that until he sees proof that Bishop Juan Barros was complicit in covering up the sex crimes of the Rev. Fernando Karadima, such accusations against Barros are 'all calumny.'" Since when has "presumption of innocence" been a "personal trait"? And yet the vatican has already punished barros for covering up the crimes. So how is that being innocent? They noted the accusers were deemed credible enough by the Vatican that it sentenced Karadima to a lifetime of “penance and prayer” for his crimes in 2011. A Chilean judge also found the victims to be credible, saying that while she had to drop criminal charges against Karadima because too much time had passed, proof of his crimes wasn’t lacking. http://time.com/5109212/pope-francis-sexual-abuse-chile-barros-karadima/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted January 24, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,784 Content Per Day: 6.23 Reputation: 11,227 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 Since the vatican punished him, it is not calumny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted January 25, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,784 Content Per Day: 6.23 Reputation: 11,227 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 Shouldnt pedophile priests go to jail? Yet the pope has advocated leniency for 2000 of them. (Link was in a prior thread in political forum.) Politicians in the us are resigning over mere accusations of harassment of adult women, yet there is silence over the leniency being urged against criminal pedophile priests. Where is the moral outrage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted January 25, 2018 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted January 25, 2018 This one has gotten so far off topic that it's probably time to let it rest. Locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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