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23 hours ago, HAZARD said:

The Sabbath was an Old Testament law that has been done away with by Christ who fulfilled the whole law. 

Col 2:16
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect7 of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Shalom, HAZARD.

Nope. The Shabbat (Sabbath) was NOT an "OT law that has been done away with." Honoring the Shabbat was installed BEFORE the Law was given at Sinai! While it was made a special sign for the children of Israel, too, it was a day to be honored since the Creation FOR EVERYONE!

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Gen. 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

There was light in the beginning, God created the heaven which would include the sun, moon and stars before He created the Earth.

Nope. God CREATED the light ON Day 1 of Creation:

Genesis 1:1-5 (KJV)

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The "heaven," "haShaamayim," is "the SKIES," technically, the ATMOSPHERE, not created until Day 2! It was NOT created in verse 1! It was not so NAMED until verse 8!

Genesis 1:6-8 (KJV)

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven (Hebrew: Shaamaayim = "Skies"). And the evening and the morning were the second day.

The "firmament," Hebrew "raqiya`" was an EXPANSE. GASES expand! The skies are what we see when we look up. It includes the clouds and the blue sky that we see during the day, and the darkness at night that we "see" when we look up. At this stage, it did NOT include the "lights" that would be created on Day 4, which included the "stars," Hebrew "kokhaviym," meaning "round objects!"

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Job 38:  6-7, V 6, Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened ? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7, When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

This is a case of "mistaken identity." Job 38 is NOT talking about "Creation"; it was talking about the FLOOD! Observe:

Job 38:8-11 (KJV)

8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,
10 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,
11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

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Lucifer and one third of God's angels had not yet rebelled when God laid the foundations of the Earth, they, "all" of God's angels rejoiced, shouted for joy..

Lucifer was already a fallen angel when he entered Adams Eden to try and wrest control back from Adam.

When did Lucifer and one third of Gods angels rebel?

The, some time later, in the distant past, Lucifer and one third of God's angels rebelled against God and invaded Heaven to try and dethrone God.

Isaiah 14: 13-14, V  13, For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14, I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Lucifer was cast back to the Earth and God destroyed the Earth and all therein and turned off the light. 

All of THIS is PURE fiction, a FABLE. It's all based on some theological suppositions that have very little basis in reality, let alone in truth!

Revelation 12:4 has nothing to do with Isaiah 14:13-14. Isaiah 14:13-14 is a PORTION out of the prophecy against the king of Bavel (Babylon):

Isaiah 14:1-23 (KJV)

1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. 2 And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

3 And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.

6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.

7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven (from the sky), O Lucifer (Hebrew: Heeyleel = "morning [star]" referring to Venus), son of the morning (Hebrew: ben-shaachar = "son of-morning")! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

22 For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD. 23 I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the LORD of hosts.

It's a STRETCH to make this passage about haSatan! I know WHY one cannot give up this passage about the King of Bavel being about haSatan, the devil, but just because there is so little about the origin of this creature, it doesn't give one permission to misuse the Scriptures.

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When you understand and get this right, you might understand more of what's in the Word of God. Jesus did away with the Sabbath.

Jesus abolished the Sabbath and we are no longer under the law. The new testament does not command men to keep any particular Sabbath. The New testament teaches that men can choose which day if any that they want to keep unto the Lord (Romans 14:5-6; Galatians 4:9-10; Colossians 2:14-17).

Romans 14:5-6,  v.5, One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.


    v.6, He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Galatians 4:9-10, v. 9, But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?


    v.10, Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.

Colossians 2:14-17, v. 14, Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;


    v.15, And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

    v.16, Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

    v.17, Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The whole law of God and Moses including the ten commandments, and all the civil and ceremonial laws based upon the ten commandments, was done away with and abolished in Christ on the cross and the New Covenant now takes the place of the old one.

This is plainly stated in 2 Cor. 3: "Who hath made us able ministers of THE NEW TESTAMENT . . . . if the MINISTRATION OF DEATH, WRITTEN AND ENGRAVED IN STONES (the ten commandments; was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not steadfastly behold the face on Moses for the glory of his countenance WHICH WAS TO BE DONE AWAY, for if THE MINISTRATION OF CONDEMNATION be glory, MUCH MORE dothe THE MINISTRATION OF RIGHTIOUSNESS EXCEED IN GLORY. For even that (the old covenant) which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. For if that (old covenant) WHICH WAS DONE AWAY was glorious, MUCH MORE that (new covenant) WHICH REMAINETH is glorious . . . . not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not steadfastly look to the end of that (the old covenant) WHICH WAS ABOLISHED: But their minds were blinded UNTIL THIS DAY remaineth the same vail untaken away after reading THE OLD TESTAMENT; WHICH IS DONE AWAY IN Christ" (2 Cor. 3:16-15; Col. 2:14-17; Eph. 2:15). The word "vail" in this verse 14 is not the original Greek, so it is not only the vail that"is done away" but is is the old covenant WHICH IS DONE AWAY in Christ on the cross.

Some people may need an interpreter to explain this simple passage, but to the common reader it is clear that the old covenant has been "done away" and "abolished" entirely and the new covenant has taken its place. The ten commandments were the only part of the law that was written and engraved on tablets of stone so they were done away with on the cross (Ex. 24:12; 31:18; 32:15; 34:1-4, 27-35; Deut. 4:13; 5:22; 10:4). Some might argue that it was only the glory of the old covenant that was done away, but what good is an old covenant that has lost its glory? Why contend that we should keep it when we have a better and a new covenant that is more glorious and which remains in force? Paul argued that the old covenant was given in glory, so if its glory is done away the covenant itself is also done away, Leaving out the second "glory" in verse 7 and the second "vail" in verse 14. which are not in the original Greek, we have the fact plainly stated in both verses that it is "the old testament; WHICH IS DONE AWAY IN CHRIST." In verse 15 the old covenant is called "Moses" thus proving that Moses gave the ten commandments. 

Note the following contrasts between the old and new covenants in 2 Cor. 3: the first is "old" and the second is "new'; the first brought "death" and the second brings "life"; the first was "glorious" and the second is "much more glorious"; the first brought 'condemnation" and the second brings "righteousness" which frees from condemnation (Roman 8:1-4); the first was of "the letter" and the second is of "the Spirit"; the first had "no glory" in comparison to the second "by reason of the glory that excelleth"; the first was "done away" and "abolished" and thesecond "remaineth";  the first came by "Moses" and was "done away in Christ"; the first required a vail to hide its glory because it was "the ministration of death" but the exceeding glory of the second can be looked upon with "open face" because it is "the spirit that giveth life"; and the first brought blindness and bondage while the second brings enlightenment and liberty and changes character by the spirit of the Lord.

Christ came to "fulfil" the law before He "abolished it on the cross (Matt. 5:17, 18). The Greekword for "fulfil is plero, to satisfy, execute, finish, end,make complete, cause to expire. It is translated "fulfil" in connection with many prophecies which came to an end when they were "fulfilled (Matt. 1:22;2:15, 17, 23; 4:14; 8:17; 12:17; 13:35; 26:54-56; 27:9, 35). That the law also ceased to be in force when it was "fulfilled is clear from Matt. 11:13; Luke 16:16; 24:27, 44; Gal. 3:19-25. The law was only a shadow of things to come and when these realities came the mere type, picture or shadow of them was no longer needed (Col. 2:14-17; Heb. 4:1-11; 8:1-6:9:1-10; 10:1-18).

"The law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ (John 1:17).

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3 hours ago, HAZARD said:

When you understand and get this right, you might understand more of what's in the Word of God. Jesus did away with the Sabbath.

Jesus abolished the Sabbath and we are no longer under the law. The new testament does not command men to keep any particular Sabbath.

Shalom, HAZARD.

Wow. This is just POOR teaching! Yeshua` never "abolished" the Shabbat! He COMPLETED it! That's a BIG difference! He didn't get rid of it; He made it possible to keep it out of LOVE for God rather than by compulsion under threat of punishment!

3 hours ago, HAZARD said:

The New testament teaches that men can choose which day if any that they want to keep unto the Lord (Romans 14:5-6; Galatians 4:9-10; Colossians 2:14-17).

Romans 14:5-6,  v.5, One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.


    v.6, He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Galatians 4:9-10, v. 9, But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?


    v.10, Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.

Colossians 2:14-17, v. 14, Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;


    v.15, And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

    v.16, Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

    v.17, Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The whole law of God and Moses including the ten commandments, and all the civil and ceremonial laws based upon the ten commandments, was done away with and abolished in Christ on the cross and the New Covenant now takes the place of the old one.

This is plainly stated in 2 Cor. 3: "Who hath made us able ministers of THE NEW TESTAMENT . . . . if the MINISTRATION OF DEATH, WRITTEN AND ENGRAVED IN STONES (the ten commandments; was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not steadfastly behold the face on Moses for the glory of his countenance WHICH WAS TO BE DONE AWAY, for if THE MINISTRATION OF CONDEMNATION be glory, MUCH MORE dothe THE MINISTRATION OF RIGHTIOUSNESS EXCEED IN GLORY. For even that (the old covenant) which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. For if that (old covenant) WHICH WAS DONE AWAY was glorious, MUCH MORE that (new covenant) WHICH REMAINETH is glorious . . . . not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not steadfastly look to the end of that (the old covenant) WHICH WAS ABOLISHED: But their minds were blinded UNTIL THIS DAY remaineth the same vail untaken away after reading THE OLD TESTAMENT; WHICH IS DONE AWAY IN Christ" (2 Cor. 3:16-15; Col. 2:14-17; Eph. 2:15). The word "vail" in this verse 14 is not the original Greek, so it is not only the vail that"is done away" but is is the old covenant WHICH IS DONE AWAY in Christ on the cross.

Some people may need an interpreter to explain this simple passage, but to the common reader it is clear that the old covenant has been "done away" and "abolished" entirely and the new covenant has taken its place. The ten commandments were the only part of the law that was written and engraved on tablets of stone so they were done away with on the cross (Ex. 24:12; 31:18; 32:15; 34:1-4, 27-35; Deut. 4:13; 5:22; 10:4). Some might argue that it was only the glory of the old covenant that was done away, but what good is an old covenant that has lost its glory? Why contend that we should keep it when we have a better and a new covenant that is more glorious and which remains in force? Paul argued that the old covenant was given in glory, so if its glory is done away the covenant itself is also done away, Leaving out the second "glory" in verse 7 and the second "vail" in verse 14. which are not in the original Greek, we have the fact plainly stated in both verses that it is "the old testament; WHICH IS DONE AWAY IN CHRIST." In verse 15 the old covenant is called "Moses" thus proving that Moses gave the ten commandments. 

Note the following contrasts between the old and new covenants in 2 Cor. 3: the first is "old" and the second is "new'; the first brought "death" and the second brings "life"; the first was "glorious" and the second is "much more glorious"; the first brought 'condemnation" and the second brings "righteousness" which frees from condemnation (Roman 8:1-4); the first was of "the letter" and the second is of "the Spirit"; the first had "no glory" in comparison to the second "by reason of the glory that excelleth"; the first was "done away" and "abolished" and thesecond "remaineth";  the first came by "Moses" and was "done away in Christ"; the first required a vail to hide its glory because it was "the ministration of death" but the exceeding glory of the second can be looked upon with "open face" because it is "the spirit that giveth life"; and the first brought blindness and bondage while the second brings enlightenment and liberty and changes character by the spirit of the Lord.

Christ came to "fulfil" the law before He "abolished it on the cross (Matt. 5:17, 18). The Greekword for "fulfil is plero, to satisfy, execute, finish, end,make complete, cause to expire. It is translated "fulfil" in connection with many prophecies which came to an end when they were "fulfilled (Matt. 1:22;2:15, 17, 23; 4:14; 8:17; 12:17; 13:35; 26:54-56; 27:9, 35). That the law also ceased to be in force when it was "fulfilled is clear from Matt. 11:13; Luke 16:16; 24:27, 44; Gal. 3:19-25. The law was only a shadow of things to come and when these realities came the mere type, picture or shadow of them was no longer needed (Col. 2:14-17; Heb. 4:1-11; 8:1-6:9:1-10; 10:1-18).

"The law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ (John 1:17).

Face it; YOU'VE read these verses incorrectly! Consider the following prophecies:

Isaiah 66:1-24 (KJV)

1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

5 Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.

6 A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the LORD that rendereth recompence to his enemies.

7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.

8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.

10 Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her:

11 That ye may suck, and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; that ye may milk out, and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.

12 For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees.

13 As one whom his mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem.

14 And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the LORD shall be known toward his servants, and his indignation toward his enemies.

15 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.

17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh (pork; ham; bacon), and the abomination (lobster; crab; shrimp), and the mouse (Vietnamese STAR meat; cuy; guinea pig), shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

18 For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory. 19 And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles. 20 And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD. 21 And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD.

22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm (carcase; torso) shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

And,

Zechariah 14:16-21 (KJV)

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles (or booths; Sukkot). 17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. 18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD'S house shall be like the bowls before the altar. 21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.

So, tell me again how the Shabbat and other holidays, like Sukkot, are "arbitrary."

"Jesus (Yeshua`) did away with the Sabbath"?! I don't think so, pal! TRY AGAIN!

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1 hour ago, Retrobyter said:

Shalom, HAZARD.

Wow. This is just POOR teaching! Yeshua` never "abolished" the Shabbat! He COMPLETED it! That's a BIG difference! He didn't get rid of it; He made it possible to keep it out of LOVE for God rather than by compulsion under threat of punishment!

Face it; YOU'VE read these verses incorrectly! Consider the following prophecies:

Isaiah 66:1-24 (KJV)

1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

5 Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.

6 A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the LORD that rendereth recompence to his enemies.

7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.

8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.

10 Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her:

11 That ye may suck, and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; that ye may milk out, and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.

12 For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees.

13 As one whom his mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem.

14 And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the LORD shall be known toward his servants, and his indignation toward his enemies.

15 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.

17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh (pork; ham; bacon), and the abomination (lobster; crab; shrimp), and the mouse (Vietnamese STAR meat; cuy; guinea pig), shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

18 For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory. 19 And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles. 20 And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD. 21 And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD.

22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm (carcase; torso) shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

And,

Zechariah 14:16-21 (KJV)

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles (or booths; Sukkot). 17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. 18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD'S house shall be like the bowls before the altar. 21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.

So, tell me again how the Shabbat and other holidays, like Sukkot, are "arbitrary."

"Jesus (Yeshua`) did away with the Sabbath"?! I don't think so, pal! TRY AGAIN!

Ok, so You read it as you like. Explain this!

The New testament teaches that men can choose which day if any that they want to keep unto the Lord (Romans 14:5-6; Galatians 4:9-10; Colossians 2:14-17).

Romans 14:5-6,  v.5, One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.


    v.6, He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

We can keep any day we like, and we can eat what we like, end of story! 

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17 hours ago, HAZARD said:

Ok, so You read it as you like. Explain this!

The New testament teaches that men can choose which day if any that they want to keep unto the Lord (Romans 14:5-6; Galatians 4:9-10; Colossians 2:14-17).

Romans 14:5-6,  v.5, One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.


    v.6, He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

We can keep any day we like, and we can eat what we like, end of story! 

Shalom, HAZARD.

The three books to which you are referring are all letters by Sha'uwl ("Saul"), who was surnamed "Paulus" through his benefactor, Sergius Paulus in Acts 13:

Acts 13:4-12 (HCSB)

4 Being sent out by the Holy Spirit, they came down to Seleucia, and from there they sailed to Cyprus. 5 Arriving in Salamis, they proclaimed God’s message in the Jewish synagogues. They also had John as their assistant. 6 When they had gone through the whole island as far as Paphos, they came across a sorcerer, a Jewish false prophet named Bar-Jesus. 7 He was with the proconsul, Sergius Paulus (Greek: anthupatoo Sergioo Pauloo, the dative case of anthupatos Sergios Paulos), an intelligent man. This man summoned Barnabas and Saul and desired to hear God’s message. 8 But Elymas the sorcerer (this is the meaning of his name) opposed them and tried to turn the proconsul away from the faith.

9 Then Saul — also called Paul (Greek: Paulos) — filled with the Holy Spirit, stared straight at the sorcerer 10 and said, “You son of the Devil, full of all deceit and all fraud, enemy of all righteousness! Won’t you ever stop perverting the straight paths of the Lord? 11 Now, look! The Lord’s hand is against you. You are going to be blind, and will not see the sun for a time.” 

Suddenly a mist and darkness fell on him, and he went around seeking someone to lead him by the hand.

12 Then the proconsul, seeing what happened, believed and was astonished at the teaching about the Lord.

Here's what Sha'uwl said about himself:

Philippians 3:2-11 (KJV)

2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. 3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. 4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more: 5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee; 6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.

7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ (the Messiah). 8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord (the Messiah Yeshua` my Master): for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ (the Messiah), 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: 10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; 11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

And, he used this information:

Acts 23:6-10 (KJV)

6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees (Greek: Saddoukaioon = Hebrew: Ts'duqiym = "Righteous ones"), and the other Pharisees (Greek: Pharisaioon = Hebrew: P'rushiym = "Separatists"), he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question. 7 And when he had so said, there arose a dissension between the Pharisees and the Sadducees: and the multitude was divided. (Divide and conquer.) 8 For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both. 9 And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees' part arose, and strove, saying, We find no evil in this man: but if a spirit or an angel hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God. 10 And when there arose a great dissension, the chief captain, fearing lest Paul should have been pulled in pieces of them, commanded the soldiers to go down, and to take him by force from among them, and to bring him into the castle.

He NEVER renounced his position or his family! He NEVER disavowed his commitment as a Paruwsh - a Pharisee - a Separatist - one who believed that he was one who was, as "touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless!"

Do you HONESTLY BELIEVE that this man, Sha'uwl, a.k.a. Paulos, would be advocating the disobedience of God's Law?! Seriously?!

No, there's a different explanation than what you have championed here.

(More later....)

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Retrobyter  Check these Scriptures out.

Here are 24 Reasons Christians, followers of Christ, under the New Covenant today observe the First day of the week or any day they chose, Rom. 14:5-6.

“1 Typical Sabbaths of the Law of Moses have been abolished”

“2 The New Covenant does not Command any particular day to be observed by Christians. (Rom 14:5-6, Gal 4:9-11)”

“3 Christians are free to choose their day of rest. (Rom 14:5-6)”

“4 They are Commanded not to permit any man to judge them regarding a Sabbath (Worship day). (Col 2:14-17)”

“5 Rigid observance of days is rebuked by Paul. (Gal 4:9-11)”

“6 Sabbaths are not named the necessary requirements of the Gospel. (Acts 15:1-41)”

“7 Real and eternal rest is in Christ not in a day. (Mt 11:28-29, Heb 4:1)”

“8 The Fourth Commandment concerning the Sabbath was left out of the NEW Covenant. (Ex 20:1-11, Acts 15:24)”

“9 The Seventh day Jewish Sabbath commemorated a deliverance from bondage in Egypt of which Christians had no part of. (Dt 5:15)”

“10 Going under the Law of Moses to observe a Sabbath would obligate them to keep the WHOLE LAW OF MOSES. (Gal 3:10-14, Gal 5:3, Gal 9:11-, James 2:10)”

“11 Resting and worshipping on Sunday serve the same purpose on Saturday Sabbath.”

“12 Early Christians kept the First day of the week. (John 20:1-19-26-29, Acts 20:6-12, 1 Cor 16:1-2)”

“13 The Lord COMPLETED his redemptive work and his victory over death, hell and the grave, on Sunday the First day.”

“14 Christ’s special manifestations to his disciples after the resurrection were on the First day of the week (Mt 28:1-, Mark 16:1-, Luke23:1-, Luke 24:1-, John 20:19-26)”

“15 NO recognition was given by Christ or any Apostle to the old Jewish Seventh day Sabbath after the resurrection. (Acts 2:1)”

“16 The outpouring of the Holy Spirit was on the First day of the week. The day after seven Jewish Sabbaths. (Acts 2:1)”

“17 After Christ’s ascension the first Gospel sermon was preached on the first day and the first conversions (about 2,000) took place on the first day. (Acts 2:1-42)”

“18 The very lack of any warning by Christ and the Apostles regarding not keeping the Sabbath being sinful or making it the ‘mark of the beast’ as some teach. To observe the First day (Sunday) is acceptable to God as a day of rest and Worship.”

“19 Typology of the old covenant makes the First day of the week prominent. The feasts of the first fruits and Pentecost were observed on the First day as well as the feasts of unleavened bread and tabernacles. (Lev 23:8-14-38-39)”

“20 God honored the first day by giving the Law on the day (Ex 19:1-3-11, Lev 23:5-6, with Ex 12:2-18).”

“21 God honored many First days of the week with Israel Hence to say that no religious service was honored of God on Sunday is unscriptural. (2Chron 7:10, 2Chron 29:1, 2Chron 17:1, Ezra 3:6, Neh 8:14-18 etc)”

“22 God honored the First day again by giving Christians the book of Revelation on that day. (Rev 1:10, Acts 20:7)”

“23 The new covenant frees such bondages of the old covenant as the death penalty for cooking, making fires, and performing other duties on a Sabbath. (Ex 16:23, Ex 20: 8-10, Ex 31:15, 35:2-5, Lev 23:3, Num 15:32)”

“24 Not a passage in the NT ever records a distinctive gathering of Christians on the Jewish Sabbath. On the contrary the records show that Christians gathered on Sunday the First day of the week which is called the Lords day. (John 20:1, John 17:, Rev 1:10, Acts 20:7, 1 Cor 16:2,)”

“Of the 60 times the word Sabbath is found in the NT it is used 50 times before the New covenant was made. Of the remaining 10 times 6 refer to Paul as preaching to the Jews (At non Christian gatherings) on Jewish Sabbath days. Acts 13:27, Acts 17:1, Acts 2:, Acts 18:4, refer to the Law of Moses being read in the Synagogues on Jewish Sabbaths.”

“Acts 13:27, Acts 15:21, Refers to Jewish travel as not more that a mile on the Sabbath. Acts 1:12Col 2:14-17 plainly say that all of Moses Laws were abolished.”

 

“Had there been explicit Commandments to worship on a specific day even the First day it would have brought about the same bondage as the Law of Moses. The higher ideals and principles of Christianity would have then been regulated to specific days and seasons which God promised to abolish. (Isa 1:13, Hos 2:11).”

“And God abolished them. (2Cor 3:6-15, Gal 3:19-25, Gal 4:21-31, Gal 5:1-3, Eph 2:14-15, Col 2:14-17, Heb 6:20, Heb 10:18).”

“Where as Israel was obligated to commemorate freedom from bondage with a yoke of bondage which included the Sabbath keeping Law. Christians are free to commemorate their Freedom on any day they chose from. Rom 14:5-6”

 

Here are ten reasons the 4th commandment is left out of the New Covenant.

“Acts 15:24”

“1 Neither God, nor Christ made it a part of the new covenant. If they had it would be somewhere in the NT as the other 9 are.”

“2 Of all the words of Jesus on earth only 4 references are made out of the Sabbath (Matt 12:8, Matt 24:20, Mark 2:27-28, Luke 6:5). He merely taught that it was lawful to do good on that day and that no day is lord of man. He did not once COMMAND any particular observance of any definite day.”

“3 The old Jewish Sabbath was part of the contract between God and Israel and a token and a sign of the covenant (Ex 20:8-11, Ex 31:13-18, Ezek. 20:12-20). The contract was not made with men before Moses (Duet 5:2-3) or with Gentiles and the Church (Rom 2:14, Dt 4:7-10). The Sabbath was not for them.”

“4 The 4th commandment was the only one of the ten that was a ceremonial not a moral law. It’s sole purpose was to commemorate the deliverance from Egyptian bondage when Israel had no rest. (Dt 5:15). It was only a type of future and eternal rest (Col 2:14-17, Heb 4:1-11, Heb. 10:1). It was natural for it to be left out of the new contract when the reality of rest came of were only a shadow (Matt 11:28-29, Col 214-17). The physical and spiritual benefits of a rest day can be realized on any other day as well as Saturday.”

“5 The 4th Commandment was the only one that could degenerate into a mere form without affecting the morals of men. It is the only one of the ten that could be done away with and still leaves a moral law for men. All other concern the moral obligations of men. It was the only one that could be done away with and still leave a moral law for men.”

“6 God foretold and promised He would do away with the old Jewish Sabbath (Hos. 2:11, Isa 1:10-15).”

“7 The prophets predicted that God would make abolish the old and make a new covenant (Isa 42:6, Isa 49:8, Isa 59:21, Jer. 31:31-40, Jer. 32:37-44, Ezek. 36:24-38). That this is referred to in the NT is clear in Romans 11:25-29, Heb. 8:8-12 and Heb. 10:16-18, Matt 26:28”

“8 In no passage is it stated that men should keep the Jewish Sabbath to commemorate the old creation rest. It was to commemorate deliverance form Egypt. (Dt 5:15) This was what they were to remember (Ex 20:8).”

“9 It is the only commandment that could be and has been broken without breaking a moral law, As an example Israel marched on that day Joshua 6:12-16. Set up the tabernacle Ex 40:1-17 and Lev 23:5-11. Searched Canaan Num. 13:25. Made war 1 Kings 20:29, 2 Kings 3:9, Joshua 6:12-16. David and others broke it and were blameless Matt 12:2-5.”

“10 The NT permits Christians to keep any day as the Sabbath. It being one of the doubtful things not covered by Commandment in the New Covenant. See Romans 14:1-13, Gal 4:9-11, Col 2:14-17. The day early Christians observed was not by Commandment but by choice was the First day. Sunday. See: John 20:1-19, John 20: 7, 1 Cor. 16:2…”

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Very interesting. Thank you. 

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Interesting,  as this  discussion is along the lines of questions I've had for awhile.  Since the old Testament prophets foretold everything Christ would do and full-fill where did they say Christ would nullify the Sabbath?  All I see is people quoting Paul.

Isn’t this the new covenant ?

JEREMIAH 31

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

What is this *Law* that God writes in their souls (inward parts) and in their hearts, other than the Ten Commandments ?

 

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33 minutes ago, Realist said:

Interesting,  as this  discussion is along the lines of questions I've had for awhile.  Since the old Testament prophets foretold everything Christ would do and full-fill where did they say Christ would nullify the Sabbath?  All I see is people quoting Paul.

Isn’t this the new covenant ?

JEREMIAH 31

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

What is this *Law* that God writes in their souls (inward parts) and in their hearts, other than the Ten Commandments ?

 

Check these Scriptures and all your questions will be answered if your a believe in the Word of God.

 

Here are 24 Reasons Christians, followers of Christ, under the New Covenant today observe the First day of the week OR ANY DAY THEY CHOSE,  Rom. 14:5-6.

 

“1 Typical Sabbaths of the Law of Moses have been abolished”

 

“2 The New Covenant does not Command any particular day to be observed by Christians. (Rom 14:5-6, Gal 4:9-11)”

“3 Christians are free to choose their day of rest. (Rom 14:5-6)”

 

“4 They are Commanded not to permit any man to judge them regarding a Sabbath (Worship day). (Col 2:14-17)”

“5 Rigid observance of days is rebuked by Paul. (Gal 4:9-11)”

 

“6 Sabbaths are not named the necessary requirements of the Gospel. (Acts 15:1-41)”

 

“7 Real and eternal rest is in Christ not in a day. (Mt 11:28-29, Heb 4:1)”

 

“8 The Fourth Commandment concerning the Sabbath was left out of the NEW Covenant. (Ex 20:1-11, Acts 15:24)”

 

“9 The Seventh day Jewish Sabbath commemorated a deliverance from bondage in Egypt of which Christians had no part of. (Dt 5:15)”

“10 Going under the Law of Moses to observe a Sabbath would obligate them to keep the WHOLE LAW OF MOSES. (Gal 3:10-14, Gal 5:3, Gal 9:11-, James 2:10)”

“11 Resting and worshipping on Sunday serve the same purpose on Saturday Sabbath.”

“12 Early Christians kept the First day of the week. (John 20:1-19-26-29, Acts 20:6-12, 1 Cor 16:1-2)”

“13 The Lord COMPLETED his redemptive work and his victory over death, hell and the grave, on Sunday the First day.”

“14 Christ’s special manifestations to his disciples after the resurrection were on the First day of the week (Mt 28:1-, Mark 16:1-, Luke23:1-, Luke 24:1-, John 20:19-26)”

“15 NO recognition was given by Christ or any Apostle to the old Jewish Seventh day Sabbath after the resurrection. (Acts 2:1)”

“16 The outpouring of the Holy Spirit was on the First day of the week. The day after seven Jewish Sabbaths. (Acts 2:1)”

“17 After Christ’s ascension the first Gospel sermon was preached on the first day and the first conversions (about 2,000) took place on the first day. (Acts 2:1-42)”

“18 The very lack of any warning by Christ and the Apostles regarding not keeping the Sabbath being sinful or making it the ‘mark of the beast’ as some teach. To observe the First day (Sunday) is acceptable to God as a day of rest and Worship.”

“19 Typology of the old covenant makes the First day of the week prominent. The feasts of the first fruits and Pentecost were observed on the First day as well as the feasts of unleavened bread and tabernacles. (Lev 23:8-14-38-39)”

“20 God honored the first day by giving the Law on the day (Ex 19:1-3-11, Lev 23:5-6, with Ex 12:2-18).”

“21 God honored many First days of the week with Israel Hence to say that no religious service was honored of God on Sunday is unscriptural. (2Chron 7:10, 2Chron 29:1, 2Chron 17:1, Ezra 3:6, Neh 8:14-18 etc)”

“22 God honored the First day again by giving Christians the book of Revelation on that day. (Rev 1:10, Acts 20:7)”

“23 The new covenant frees such bondages of the old covenant as the death penalty for cooking, making fires, and performing other duties on a Sabbath. (Ex 16:23, Ex 20: 8-10, Ex 31:15, 35:2-5, Lev 23:3, Num 15:32)”

“24 Not a passage in the NT ever records a distinctive gathering of Christians on the Jewish Sabbath. On the contrary the records show that Christians gathered on Sunday the First day of the week which is called the Lords day. (John 20:1, John 17:, Rev 1:10, Acts 20:7, 1 Cor 16:2,)”

“Of the 60 times the word Sabbath is found in the NT it is used 50 times before the New covenant was made. Of the remaining 10 times 6 refer to Paul as preaching to the Jews (At non Christian gatherings) on Jewish Sabbath days. Acts 13:27, Acts 17:1, Acts 2:, Acts 18:4, refer to the Law of Moses being read in the Synagogues on Jewish Sabbaths.”

“Acts 13:27, Acts 15:21, Refers to Jewish travel as not more that a mile on the Sabbath. Acts 1:12Col 2:14-17 plainly say that all of Moses Laws were abolished.”

 

“Had there been explicit Commandments to worship on a specific day even the First day it would have brought about the same bondage as the Law of Moses. The higher ideals and principles of Christianity would have then been regulated to specific days and seasons which God promised to abolish. (Isa 1:13, Hos 2:11).”

“And God abolished them. (2Cor 3:6-15, Gal 3:19-25, Gal 4:21-31, Gal 5:1-3, Eph 2:14-15, Col 2:14-17, Heb 6:20, Heb 10:18).”

“Where as Israel was obligated to commemorate freedom from bondage with a yoke of bondage which included the Sabbath keeping Law. Christians are free to commemorate their Freedom on any day they chose from. Rom 14:5-6”

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2 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Check these Scriptures and all your questions will be answered if your a believe in the Word of God.

I did,  and do not see the significance of the first day in light of those scriptures compared to these:

The first mention of the Sabbath was in Genesis 2:3

And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Notice that God made a distinct action in “blessing” and “sanctifying" the Sabbath Day.

God sanctified this day as the supreme lawgiver and as the Creator.   The Sabbath command was one of the only two commands given in the Garden of Eden and was an element of obedience.

In Exodus 16:23,30 we see the Sabbath also was in place before the Law of Moses

"Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the LORD...So the people rested on the seventh day".  Exodus 16:23,30

Therefore the people of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, observing the Sabbath throughout their generations, as a covenant forever.   Exodus 31:16 9

Jesus also honored the seventh day said that He was Lord of the Sabbath

"So the Son of Man is lord even of the Sabbath".  Luke 2:28

Note that God says the Sabbath will be kept in the Millennium according to Isaiah 66:23

And it shall come to pass that from one New Moon to another,  And from one Sabbath to another,  All flesh shall come to worship before Me," says the LORD.

So in the beginning, the middle and the end of the bible teaches the 7th day Sabbath.

To be clear, I am not part of any denomination, just trying to understand the truth in the bible and I never understood why Sunday was picked for the worship day especially when I found these quotes years ago:

“Sunday is a Catholic institution and its claim to observance can be defended only on Catholic principles...From beginning to end of Scripture there is not a single passage that warrants the transfer of weekly public worship from the last day of the week to the first.” Catholic Press, Sydney, Australia, August 1900.

“Sunday is our mark or authority...the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.” Catholic Record of London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.

“It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.” Priest Brady, in an address reported in The News, Elizabeth, New Jersey, March 18, 1903.

“Protestants...accept Sunday rather than Saturday as the day for public worship after the Catholic Church made the change...But the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that...In observing the Sunday, they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the church, the Pope.” Our Sunday Visitor, February 15, 1950.

 

 

 

 

 

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