MyLordsServant Posted January 27, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 479 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 171 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/18/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Yowm said: And those who cried Hosanna on Sunday and cried crucify Him by Friday? That's assuming most or all were saying to crucify him. That's also an irrelevant point to make, as I never said all were saved. Thousands followed Jesus. There was at least over 100k people who heard of Jesus. Those who cried "crucify him", included the chiefs, priests, and a crowd. We can't assume how big the crowd was, nor who was in the crowd(gentiles?). "But the chief priests and elders persuaded the crowds" Jesus did say, he found little faith in Israel, and no prophet is accepted in his hometown. So who's to say he was preaching to the them? Jesus spent little time preaching there, from what I understand. Asides from these points. The message of Jesus was clearly for those who were saved. If you read near the start of that chapter, Jesus was talking to his disciples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaman 3.0 Posted January 27, 2018 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted January 27, 2018 To the question of the O.P., I am not emphatic about what it is saying, but on the topic of being worthy . . . who is worthy except those whom the Lord has made worthy? Also, the Greek is not exactly crystal clear here. For example, it could also be translated: "pray that you have the strength to flee" which also ties in with Matt 24, where it says: 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. Sounds as though it might be a vigorous journey, especially all of the "run for your lives, don't even go back to your house to get a coat" kind of talk. When the times are such that they are so horrible, that nothing like it has ever been seen, or will be again, we are talking about some pretty tough times! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 27, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 27, 2018 6 hours ago, Dennis1209 said: I'm wondering if I found an answer to a question I've pondered for some time now in Luke 21: 36. "... that ye may be accounted worthy to escape..." What exactly does that mean? Lu 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. [emphasis mine] Today, spending a couple of hours studying I Corinthians 15: 1-3, and many expositor's and scholars comments, they seem to all agree on the meaning and intent of these verses. Notice in I Corinthians 15: 2, the conditional word "IF". Seems the context is Paul is talking to believers, "wherein ye stand", "IF" ye keep in memory. So, if my interpretation of the above scripture is true, it seems to me not every born again Christian will be caught up in the Rapture (that's a question)? Presently I'm just considering and pondering the meaning, that backsliders, those whom became weak in the faith, or living in the flesh maybe excluded from the "catching away"? I'm not stating this as fact, but questioning my interpretation thereof. Like I said, I have documented a number of creditable expositor's that seem to concur with my understanding on I Corinthians 15: 1-3. What's y'all's view on this? This could very well be a verse regarding the pretribulation rapture of the Church. If it is a posttribulation verse it could be a message to the tribulation saints in the seven year tribulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 27, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.34 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 27, 2018 4 hours ago, MyLordsServant said: . I guess you had no words. well praise the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted January 27, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 27, 2018 5 hours ago, MyLordsServant said: If Jesus was talking to unbelievers, then he's saying they have a way out, other than grace through faith. He would be saying, they have to be worthy in order to get saved. Worthy in what way? Being worthy doesn't involve grace through faith. Worthy is a tricky word. It means there is no definitive answer between: condemned and saved. None of us is “ worthy”........ we are “ made worthy “ by faith in the Blood of the Lamb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted January 27, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 27, 2018 33 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said: None of us is “ worthy”........ we are “ made worthy “ by faith in the Blood of the Lamb. If Jesus raises someone from the dead, makes them alive, are they alive ? When Jesus makes someone righteous, are they righteous ? When Jesus claims someone is blameless, are they blameless ? When Jesus says even YHVH remembers no sin against someone, does anyone DARE bring an accusation !? When YHWH declares someone is HOLY, are they HOLY ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted January 27, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 27, 2018 Do you have a point? Nothing personal, but you do not communicate very well most of the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted January 27, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said: Do you have a point? Nothing personal, but you do not communicate very well most of the time. Who grants understanding (freely and without shame to all He is Pleased To) ? (p.s. not man) i.e. as He Says in His Word - the natural man cannot understand..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted January 27, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 27, 2018 I understand the irony in some people’s names. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted January 27, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 27, 2018 24 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said: I understand the irony in some people’s names. Doubtful. Previous questions, simple ones, in the last hour, you ignored because it exposes your false beliefs revealed in your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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