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Q:    how would you define Triune Baptism?

A:    I define it as a Symbol or Image of our positive coming to GOD.

Notwithstanding whatever religious traditions, the Triune Baptism is a Way of transforming a man of this world into Christian and must include:

First, Water Baptism unto which we are supposed to come with Confession and our ways already corrected to the best following of Good Conscience. It is Baptism of Repentance & Spiritual Cleansing and therefore the Sign of our coming back to God our Father.

Second, Baptism in the Name of Jesus, which is not “accepting” but rather coming to Christ Jesus our only Lord & Saviour, our becoming a Christian, a Candidate for or a Member of Local Church (given the relevant Regulations,) all Duties and Responsibilities including, and receiving the Great Commission. It is the Baptism into One & Undivided Church of GOD.

Third, Baptism In The Holy Spirit, which is obtaining Power to be Christian.

Obviously, only the first one has to do something with a water symbolizing cleansing.

The above sequence, however desirable, cannot be a compulsory one, given a lot of differences from one denomination to another, as well as the circumstances and conditions we may happen to be in. Therefore, it's not important where and how (outwardly) we were baptized. For that may be done (seemingly) a right way, but then... compromise with the world and fall away... Only our Spirit Attitude manifested in the Fruits we bring to the Kingdom of GOD under Good Guidance of His Holy Spirit does matter.

Scripture reference: Acts 8:14-17; 10:44,48; 19:1-6 – Due amendments were made by the Disciples to see to it that all three Procedures of One Baptism were performed.

From Q & A book, http://igor.worthyofpraise.org

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30 minutes ago, Igor Evgen said:

First, Water Baptism unto which we are supposed to come with Confession and our ways already corrected to the best following of Good Conscience. It is Baptism of Repentance & Spiritual Cleansing and therefore the Sign of our coming back to God our Father.

Second, Baptism in the Name of Jesus, which is not “accepting” but rather coming to Christ Jesus our only Lord & Saviour, our becoming a Christian, a Candidate for or a Member of Local Church (given the relevant Regulations,) all Duties and Responsibilities including, and receiving the Great Commission. It is the Baptism into One & Undivided Church of GOD.

I cant quite see how you can separate the two, as there is only one water baptism.

Baptism in the name of Jesus is equally accepting and coming to Jesus. You cant come to Him if you havent accepted Him. 

Cleansing also may not be accurate (unless I am misunderstanding you somehow) as cleansing by water baptism is usually a pagan concept. Baptism doesnt cleanse you of sin, it is a symbolic dying to the old man of sin and being reborn in the Spirit.

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Being dunked three time does no more then being dunked once.  Though this had a following in the early church, it was soon realized that all you need is to be submerged once, not thrice.  Being baptized in the Holy Spirit is a spiritual, not a physical, baptism, done by God with the laying on of hands.

Acts 8:14-17

Now when the apostles who were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them, who, when they had come down, prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit.  For as yet He had fallen upon none of them. They had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.  Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

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Matrix,

Please read your quotation again.

First... GOD our Father...

Second... God Son Jesus...

Try to explain otherwise Matthew 28:19.

...cleansing by water baptism is usually a pagan concept... In that case ancient Jewish Rabbis were pagans. They traveled a lot to make one procelyte and when crossed the border of their land back shook off the dust from off their feet.

The rest of your comment is doctrinal. That's not important.

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OneLight,

Where could you find those "3 dunks" in my post? Kindly read it again.

Igor

 

 

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Could "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost" mean "under the authority of" ?

 

as in "Stop in the name of the law".

 

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On 1/29/2018 at 10:02 AM, Igor Evgen said:

..cleansing by water baptism is usually a pagan concept... In that case ancient Jewish Rabbis were pagans. They traveled a lot to make one procelyte and when crossed the border of their land back shook off the dust from off their feet.

The rest of your comment is doctrinal. That's not important.

That comment makes no mention of rituals regarding baptism. There are rituals of pagan baptism where the water is seen as cleansing a person of sin when baptism does no such thing. And you also seem to be referencing...

Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

No mention here of shaking the dust off their feet.

And as for the the rest of my comment, to call it doctrinal and yet not important is a contradiction

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On 1/29/2018 at 1:12 PM, Igor Evgen said:

Q:    how would you define Triune Baptism?

A:    I define it as a Symbol or Image of our positive coming to GOD.

Notwithstanding whatever religious traditions, the Triune Baptism is a Way of transforming a man of this world into Christian and must include:

First there is nothing in scripture that remotely comes close to a Triune Baptism as you suggest. I do know that water baptism is to be done in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19) and water baptism doesn't save but is symbolic of the Christian putting off the old man and putting on the new. But there is nothing that talks about a Triune Baptism as you describe.

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On 1/29/2018 at 1:12 PM, Igor Evgen said:

Second, Baptism in the Name of Jesus, which is not “accepting” but rather coming to Christ Jesus our only Lord & Saviour, our becoming a Christian, a Candidate for or a Member of Local Church (given the relevant Regulations,) all Duties and Responsibilities including, and receiving the Great Commission. It is the Baptism into One & Undivided Church of GOD.

This isn't a separate baptism but is part of the water baptism. We baptize in Jesus's Name to show that the person has died to the sin nature and is made alive through Christ. The baptism doesn't save but is an outward demonstration of the person's salvation. 

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