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2 hours ago, Mishael said:

It's still not the same word, veneration means to give praise and or respect. Venerari is not the same word as veneration.

You obviously don't understand language & root words- but I do.  Yours is a meaningless deflection,  the bottom line is you can call it a "pink elephant" if you want, but, it changes nothing- what we are talking about (the elevation of Mary and Catholic saints)  the scripture itself calls it an abomination & condemned by God. 

You have chosen to follow the False man-made traditions which GOD hates-AND you would know that,  if you studied His Word. The Spiritual Truth is only found in God's Word - the Word in the flesh -our Lord Jesus, and written Word -the Holy Bible. 

You've shown that your heart is hardened towards Biblical reproving as you don't esteem God's Word. Time for me to kick the dirt off my sandals and say good bye!  

Romans 1:25 "Because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen."

Acts 17:16"Now while Paul was waiting for them at Athens, his spirit was provoked within him as he saw that the city was full of idols."

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2 hours ago, Davida said:

You obviously don't understand language & root words- but I do.  Yours is a meaningless deflection,  the bottom line is you can call it a "pink elephant" if you want, but, it changes nothing- what we are talking about (the elevation of Mary and Catholic saints)  the scripture itself calls it an abomination & condemned by God. 

You have chosen to follow the False man-made traditions which GOD hates-AND you would know that,  if you studied His Word. The Spiritual Truth is only found in God's Word - the Word in the flesh -our Lord Jesus, and written Word -the Holy Bible. 

You've shown that your heart is hardened towards Biblical reproving as you don't esteem God's Word. Time for me to kick the dirt off my sandals and say good bye!  

Romans 1:25 "Because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen."

Acts 17:16"Now while Paul was waiting for them at Athens, his spirit was provoked within him as he saw that the city was full of idols."

Good bye, and God bless you, may he guide you to the truth.

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13 hours ago, Mishael said:

“Why should I be honored with a visit from the mother of my Lord?" (Luke 1:43).

Theres no historical evidence the rosary was used by any religion prior to the Catholic Church.

Elizabeth, in the spirit called Jesus "Lord" no God.

HE PAGAN ORIGIN OF ROSARY BEADS

PRAYER BEADS – OR – ROSARY BEADS  

Rosary beads come in all shapes, colors, sizes and 
quality. Some rosaries are strung with pearl, crystal, 
wood and even plastic. But where did the ritual of 
the rosary come from? And what, exactly, is the 
significance of rosary beads? 

The rosary in simplest terms is said to be a tool 
used to aid prayer and meditation. The beads of a 
rosary count the prayers as they are recited out loud 
or in the mind. The user relies on the rosary beads 
to keep track of how many times you’ve said a 
particular prayer.

“Most commonly recognized in the United States 
as a symbol of Catholicism, other religions including
Buddhism, Hinduism, Paganism and Islam employ 
rosary beads as well.”
-The Meaning of Rosary Beads
What Do Rosary Beads Symbolize?
By Jessica Ciosek

“Prayer beads, or prayer rosaries, are really 
another form of the “witch’s ladder,” a knotted 
rope or cord used to count repetitions during 
a spell or ritual. Praying with beads is a spiritual
practice with a long history in most of the world’s
religions.”
-Sacred Mists Shoppe
Janet Farrar & Gavin Bone 

“prayer beads originated with the Hindu faith. 
Using beads for devotions dates to the 8th century BC 
in the cult of Shiva. In India sandstone sculptures,
statues ca 185 BC, show Hindus with prayer beads. 
The names of Hindu gods and prayers are repeated 
on stringed beads, called mala, separated by larger 
or different colored beads.” 
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS 
  Patricia A. Dilley

“Hindu converts kept their traditional use of 
prayer beads. Buddhist monks always carry a strand 
of prayer beads, or rosary, usually of 108 beads.” 
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS 
  Patricia A. Dilley

Prayer beads are used by : Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, 
and Catholics among others.

“Often, when religions sought converts, 
they allowed them to retain some of their 
pagan ways: ceremonial garb, heathen rituals 
and traditions; in order to add to their numbers. 
This led to spiritual pollution.”
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS 
  Patricia A. Dilley 

“Before the 12th century, rosaries were used for 
talismans (amulet or occult charms). Rosaries and 
prayer beads were intended by the catholic church
hierarchy, for use by the ignorant.”
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS 
  Patricia A. Dilley 

“Pagans had used prayer beads even before the 
8th century before CHRIST, and they still use 
them today.”
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS 
  Patricia A. Dilley  

Matt. 6:7,  But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

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13 hours ago, Mishael said:

Because its not a graven image, neither are icons we just venerate them, as Moses venerated the Cherubim.

Moses never venerated them at all.

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13 hours ago, Mishael said:

In I Kings 6:23-36; 7:27-39; 8:6-67 - Solomon's temple contains statues of cherubim and images of cherubim, oxen and lions. God did not condemn these images that were used in worship.

From these we know for a fact at-least in the very beginning Jews used images to help them in prayer or worship. 

According to Luke Jesus prayed in the temple in John 12.

When ever Jesus prayed, where ever He prayed, He always prayed to the Father. He never once prayed to anyone or anything else.

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6 hours ago, Mishael said:

Christ is our God not our friend to have a relationship with.

Zec 13:6, And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.

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15 hours ago, Mishael said:

Exodus 36:35-37:9 where, per the instructions of God, Moses has images of cherubim embroidered into the curtains of the tabernacle and statues of the same cast for the Ark of the Covenant.

If God told him to do it then it's part of His plan.  And God did not tell Moses to worship anything but Himself.

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2 hours ago, Mishael said:

Good bye, and God bless you, may he guide you to the truth.

May He guide YOU to the truth, Michael, before it's too late.

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3 hours ago, Mishael said:

Good bye, and God bless you, may he guide you to the truth.

And you, 

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3 hours ago, Mishael said:

Good bye, and God bless you, may he guide you to the truth.

As my friends have said....:) May the LORD God our Father & our Lord Jesus bless & give you grace to guide You to the Truth , Mishael before it's too late. 

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