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Hab 2:4  "Behold, his soul is puffed up; it is not upright within him, but the righteous shall live by his faith.

We are saved by grace through faith, but the Christian life is also a walk of faith.  

Heb 11:8  By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to a place that he was to receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going.

The walk of faith is a bit scary and adventuresome.  God leads us to go  and we step out and go, not knowing where or why but trusting God to lead the way.  No wonder unbelievers don't understand us.  We don't understand either.  We just trust and obey.  

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On 2/24/2018 at 11:26 AM, shapes said:

There are many people who believe in Jesus, but

It should stop there because doubt is is introduced

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On 2/24/2018 at 12:26 PM, shapes said:

There are many people who believe in Jesus, but they are not convinced that they are saved. They believe that they are going to go to hell instead of heaven.

What is going on here?

Actually, it's quite simple. People spend 2-3 min a day with God, studying His word, and 6 hours sleeping, 3 hours eating, 1 hour snacking, 8 hours working, 2 hours commuting, 3 hours on entertaining, TV, and Social media, 57 mins ponding how bad life is. If anything is swapped around, it's not for prayer and meditation on the word of God. That's what's going on.

1 John 2:15 (KJV)

Love not the world, neither the things [that are] in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

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On 5/15/2018 at 7:54 PM, RustyAngeL said:

The Devil believes in Jesus.  He was there from the beginning.  Believing and recieving  are two different things.  When we accept Jesus as Lord and Savior of our lives, make Him the center of our lives, live as He would have us to live, follow Him we will go to Heaven.  To just believe is not enough. we need to act on our belief and lives as His Word tells us to live.

Because He Lives... RustyAngel

 

Believing is enough.The good stuff happens as the Indweling Holy Spirit conforms one into the image of Christ.The thief on the cross proves that belief is enough.To follow Jesus is great, but if you think it saves you or keeps you saved  you are in error.It was the error the Judaizers made. As a member of the Body of Christ, if our aim is to obey Jesus, we are to follow Paul, as he follows Christ.Those are our most recent marching orders.God bless.

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1 hour ago, Abdicate said:

Actually, it's quite simple. People spend 2-3 min a day with God, studying His word, and 6 hours sleeping, 3 hours eating, 1 hour snacking, 8 hours working, 2 hours commuting, 3 hours on entertaining, TV, and Social media, 57 mins ponding how bad life is. If anything is swapped around, it's not for prayer and meditation on the word of God. That's what's going on.

1 John 2:15 (KJV)

Love not the world, neither the things [that are] in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

 

 

I think bad teaching in the majority of churches is a bigger problem.....the ones that hate Paul and reject his teachings and only preach from the Old Testament or the four Gospels ...... other churches preach “ Jesus saves....BUT! ......watch out for those that add to Paul’s gospel 1cor15:1-4... one could fall from grace—- or worse

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10 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 

 

I think bad teaching in the majority of churches is a bigger problem.....the ones that hate Paul and reject his teachings and only preach from the Old Testament or the four Gospels ...... other churches preach “ Jesus saves....BUT! ......watch out for those that add to Paul’s gospel 1cor15:1-4... one could fall from grace—- or worse

It's not bad teachers, it's bad students. If you let, permit, approve, of a teacher who explains that 2+2=5 then you're enabling that teacher to continue, and believe what they're teaching. We all must work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. God calls us to come and reason together (Him and me, not you and me), but unlike being able to cheat in school and graduate off someone else's homework, we'll be judged by our own actions or inaction as it is in most cases. We don't need the written word of God, it's written in our hearts. While that may seem like a religious statement, science has indeed proven it to be true. We're hardwired to worship God, be in awe of His creation, and seek Him out, and, most importantly, we are born knowing right and wrong, but it's our biases that overturn the right +80% of the time. Science says this, and to some, this is more important than the fact this is exactly what the word of God says.

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12 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

I think bad teaching in the majority of churches is a bigger problem.

 

1 hour ago, Abdicate said:

It's not bad teachers, it's bad students.

Why not both?

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On 2/24/2018 at 11:26 AM, shapes said:

There are many people who believe in Jesus, but they are not convinced that they are saved.

Just went back on original post and see the difference. Believe but? that's the doubt there... many more coming no doubt.

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5 hours ago, Yowm said:

 

Why not both?

Sure, everyone has to give an account for their actions and inactions.

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On 5/17/2018 at 10:03 AM, Willa said:

 

The walk of faith is a bit scary and adventuresome.  God leads us to go  and we step out and go, not knowing where or why but trusting God to lead the way.  No wonder unbelievers don't understand us.  We don't understand either.  We just trust and obey.  

 

Faith, after you are born again,  tends to be sort of a situation where God gives just enough light for only the very next step.

 

"Daddy, im afraid to learn to ride the  bike,....  what if i FALL".

"Daughter,  im right here with you, but im not going to ride it for you.........you'll just have to trust me that you can, because i said you can....because i KNOW you can...... now, get on the seat....  Lets go.".

 

I heard a fav preacher say it this way once, about trying to keep living by faith.

"on through the fog".

 

And what ive noticed, is that looking forward is kinda dark at times, but when looking back , over years, you can see where you were, and what you have  become...

 

The hand of God, is clearly seen, once you try your best to live the (pleasing to Him) life for a while, then look back on all that went right, that could have gone wrong, and you'll often notice that an unanswered prayer (you thought).... was actually God saying "no", quietly, and had he allowed you the thing you wanted, it would have been a catastrophe....

 

God is good all the time, and always knows best.......even when we disagree.

WE dont SEE the end of the thing from the beginning, and if we could then we would always understand why God's path 4 us sometimes seems ..........

Right.

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