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On 4/16/2018 at 7:41 PM, Patrick Miron said:

REALLY?

Jesus Christ different have the same wounds?

I'd be interested in discussing just WHY you abandoned Jesus Christ {the RCC and Orthodox Churches are the ONLY places you can find Jesus in Person} So you must have pretty good reason for doing so.

Easter Blessings,

Patrick 

 

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4 hours ago, Davida said:

Here for one...Matt 4:8 Satan took Jesus up on Top a high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world. 

undoubtedly the angelic host has much greater abilities as we … two killed over a 1/4 of a million soldiers in just one night. Lucifer walk on the stones of fire before the throne. So comparatively their doing could appear as supernatural... but I don't believe that it is not of God class miracles where supernatural is also of creative power. The miracles Christ performed in the will and power of The Father cannot be repeated by satan… from knowing Scripture I don't believe God gives out His Glory as such to angels as He has given through His Son... it is true satan has been given rule of the kingdoms of this world and in those kingdoms his work to produce idolatry hence the offer to Christ ... but when you think of it to offer God His own creation as barter to be worshipped make lucifer a little short in the reality department...

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5 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Satan can perform miracles but we can not be deceived. We must stay very close to the Word of God.

Question: "What does the Bible say about demonic/satanic miracles?"

Answer: 
You will be hard pressed to find someone who has never heard of some kind of religious miracle. Many Catholics are convinced of the validity of various sightings of the Virgin Mary, stigmata, weeping or bleeding statues, and even “incorruptible bodies.” There are reported miracles in other religions, as well—Hinduism, Buddhism, and Islam all claim to have documented miracles. 

Satan has the power to perform miracles. While his power is limited, he can and does perform miracles in order to deceive. John 8:44 says that Satan is a liar and the father of lies. Satan can make himself appear as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14). He does this to draw people away from God. 

When Moses and Aaron confronted Pharaoh, they performed a miraculous sign to confirm their message from God (Exodus 7:8–10). The magi of Egypt were able to perform the same miracle “by their secret arts” (verse 11). God’s miracle was shown to be greater (verse 12), but the fact is that the magi were able to perform a satanic miracle in the king’s court. 

During the tribulation, the Antichrist “will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie” (2 Thessalonians 2:9). These miracles are explicitly said to be empowered by Satan. Jesus warned that the end times will be characterized by the treachery of counterfeit prophets who “will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive” (Matthew 24:24).

The existence of demonic miracles is one reason why we must test all spirits: “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1). Any time we are in doubt, we are to make sure that what is being taught lines up with what Scripture says. If the miracle worker is teaching something contrary to God’s Word, then his miracles, no matter how convincing they seem, are a demonic delusion. 

Examples of convincing demonic miracles today are the apparitions of the Virgin Mary in different countries. These appearances of Mary seem legitimate; indeed, they are believed by millions of people. But when we compare what the apparitions say to what Scripture teaches, it is not even close. Over the course of several Marian apparitions, we are told that God wants to establish worldwide devotion to Mary’s immaculate heart, that souls will be saved if devotions to her immaculate heart are established, that she is the mediatrix between man and God, that praying the rosary is required to enter heaven, that she receives and answers prayer, that taking communion makes reparation for sins committed against her, and that blessed objects should be worn and placed in homes. 

None of these messages are of God. Jesus is the only way to God (John 14:6). Mary does not have an “immaculate” (sinless) heart. Devotion to Mary is not necessary, and the Bible never instructs us to pray to anyone but God. Jesus is the only mediator between man and God (Hebrews 7:25; 1 Timothy 2:5; 1 John 2:1). 

The message of the Marian apparitions clearly contradicts Scripture. Did the people who claim to have seen Mary experience a real miracle? Yes, possibly. However, the entity calling itself “Mary” is not working for God’s glory or pointing people to Jesus Christ. Rather, Mary is being glorified, and people are being told to earn their own salvation by works.

Demonic miracles are real and they do occur. It is our responsibility to make sure that we do not give in to them. We must keep our Bibles open and put God’s revealed truth ahead of any miracle we see.

https://www.gotquestions.org/demonic-satanic-miracles.html

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15 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Examples of convincing demonic miracles today are the apparitions of the Virgin Mary in different countries. These appearances of Mary seem legitimate; indeed, they are believed by millions of people

1517: Luther initiated reformation and 5 million souls leave the Church.

1531: Our Lady of Guadeloupe appears and 9 million join.

Just another example where Our Lady win a battle against the forces of evil.

 

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13 hours ago, Concretecamper said:

Let the original poster decide.

The questions raised may be the grace of God acting to bring him/her home to His Church

The grace of God brought the original poster here to hear the truth.  The truth will set a person free! Praise the Lord ! 

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Just now, Davida said:

The Bible says God sent HIS only begotten SON--- but RC's continue to disobey and look to a female image to give their adoration & worship. It is offensive to GOD. 

You are evidently misinformed.  

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RC religion is lucifer dressed in his brightest robes....

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36 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

RC religion is lucifer dressed in his brightest robes....

I agree with you.  The only thing I differ with  in your poetic statement that I like alot is that I see in scripture that he no longer holds the status of lucifer who WAS the most beautiful angel. Lucifer was the name he held before he rebelled.

God changed his estate . Now he is simply satan. 

Lucifer in hebrew means brightness. O day star , son of dawn...In Isaiah 14: 12- 14

He had that name when he was the most beautiful angel. 

His heinous sin was that he became prideful and exalt himself above God.

God gave him a new name when he fell and was kicked  out of heaven. He was no longer a part of heavens government. 

God changed his ESTATE: Satan ; adversary.. Adversary of all things God deems good. 

 

His power became completely perverted and his destiny is damned.

It is significant that his name changed and use language that fits scripture. 

Lucifer was what he was. Satan is what is he is now.

Same being but different names. 

When he was in his first estate he was light bearer ie morning star. 

Final estate , he is adversary of God. He is the father of lies and evil

 

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3 minutes ago, Davida said:

unfortunately Satan still can represent himself that way. 

True. He does come as light. 

Fortunately , we who have new eyes through Christ; recognize who he is. 

I should say this: we see when we fill our minds with the truth. 

Ive known many who claimed Christ but had zero knowledge and zero discernment

 

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