LadyKay Posted March 5, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, simplejeff said: What does YHVH, the CREATOR SOVEREIGN , CREATOR OF ALL IN HE UNIVERSE SAY ? The penalty for sin is death. If anyone sins, either they must die for it, or Jesus must suffer horribly and be crucified for it. In either case, someone dies/died. Yeah well again I thought we were talking about adultery as a crime and what punishment should be handed out for such crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted March 5, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, LadyKay said: I thought this topic was about making adultery a crime and handing out punishment for such crime. I guess I must have gotten lost somewhere along the way. 17 minutes ago, LadyKay said: I'm going to guess that it did not do anything to stop it from taking place, and there were not enough courts or jails to hold people. So maybe that was why it was done away with? But this is only a guess on my part. Man failed. Churches failed. Catholicism failed utterly. When there was a town or city in Europe, that offered to prosecute any priest who had abused a woman sexually, and offered the woman a day to bring their complaints to the court to be handled and prosecuted expediently or expeditiously without the hassles and obstacles the woman had faced until then, so many women came forward in that one place, the whole process was thoroughly overwhelmed (as expected?) , and no one was prosecuted. There was no way to arrest all the priests and prosecute them - not enough manpower or money available to do that. Thus, it remained status quo. (unchanged), in spite of seemingly good efforts and good intentions - evil overwhelmed the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted March 5, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, LadyKay said: Yeah well again I thought we were talking about adultery as a crime and what punishment should be handed out for such crime. Adultery is a crime and whoever commits adultery will die. Permanently. Forever. Either that, or Jesus takes/took their place and suffered excruciating punishment at the hands of wicked men, was crucified and hung naked upon a living tree, died and was buried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted March 5, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2018 http://essene.com/History&Essenes/Exec.htm "Now that the place of execution has been firmly established in our minds, our next step is to determine the events that occurred that day, the day the Messiah of Israel was executed. Yahshua had spent a wakeful and anxious morning. He had been brought before the two High Priests, the Roman prefect of Judea, the Roman prefect of Galilee and Perea (and Jewish "king"), had his hair pulled, his beard plucked out, he had been spit upon, cursed, beaten, scourged, and humiliated. Finally, he was condemned. It was just before the "third hour", or 9:00 A.M. that the sanhedrin led Yahshua (and the two Zealots) to the Beth HaSeqilah at the public square for execution. ... ... ... " ... ... ... the description of his execution is very vivid .... .... .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted March 5, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted March 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, Adstar said: Why even bring up what countries did or did not do in regard to their laws about Adultery? What is important is what God says about Adultery not what worldly kingdoms say about Adultery.. And there has never been a ""Christian country"" There has been countries that have been influenced by Judaeo Christian principles.. But none have ever established those principles 100% .. Why even bring it up? Because that's the question the OP asked! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted March 5, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2018 As for prosecution of the perpetrators, the victims were more often treated worse ..... even if they did nothing wrong .... One example of many : Chapter 11 - - Worthy Christian Library www.worthychristianlibrary.com › John Foxe › Foxe's Book of Martyrs At the place of execution a monk held a cross to her, and bade her kiss and worship God. To which she answered, “I worship no wooden god, but the eternal God who is in heaven.” She was then executed, but through the before-mentioned Roman Catholic lady, the favor was granted that she should be strangeled before ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted March 5, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, LadyKay said: That would be something for each person to decide for themselves. Who in their right mind would want to get married? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger398 Posted March 5, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 562 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,074 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 648 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/01/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1966 Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ogner said: Who in their right mind would want to get married? I would you say that. I have been married for over 20 yrs. Like any other relationship it has it's up and down and it is work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted March 5, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,039 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,782 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Ogner said: What about the other States? And what about the other Christian countries? Well, I don't reside in those other places , and really can't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted March 5, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ogner said: Who in their right mind would want to get married? The ones YHVH called and chose to be Jesus' Apostles and disciples asked the same thing. It is often dangerous with many problems and obstacles, as well as God's Judgment/Punishment potentially (that the Apostles and disciples were very much aware of as Jesus Himself told them directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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