creativemechanic Posted March 21, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,273 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 518 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2018 Ive heard quite a few Anglicans speak of this. Proudly in fact, sometimes equating it with salvation. Its obviusly not, but can anyone explain what it entails. Whats actually said and told because from what i've observed, there are numerous issues with it. 1) seemingly some children were made to go to the classes by their parents (salvation is of free will) 2) Persons would say they were already confirmed (in one case as a response to being sent something encouraging them to accept Jesus as Saviour) but all the while be living blatantly sinful lives- partying, drinking, sleeping with boyfriends/girlfriends, questioning Biblical principles like how we know the bible is true etc. Its concerning because it seems as if its just another man made tradtition that gives unsaved people a false sense of salvation with their lives being a testament to the lack of the actual change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted March 21, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, creativemechanic said: Ive heard quite a few Anglicans speak of this. Proudly in fact, sometimes equating it with salvation. Its obviusly not, but can anyone explain what it entails. Whats actually said and told because from what i've observed, there are numerous issues with it. 1) seemingly some children were made to go to the classes by their parents (salvation is of free will) 2) Persons would say they were already confirmed (in one case as a response to being sent something encouraging them to accept Jesus as Saviour) but all the while be living blatantly sinful lives- partying, drinking, sleeping with boyfriends/girlfriends, questioning Biblical principles like how we know the bible is true etc. Its concerning because it seems as if its just another man made tradtition that gives unsaved people a false sense of salvation with their lives being a testament to the lack of the actual change It is a man made tradition.. A hang over from the catholic religon.. They broke away from control of rome but they took a lot of the RC traditions of men with them... Confirmation comes as a result of infant baptisim.. So a false doctrine comes from a false doctrine.. People are saved when they personally believe Jesus and trust in the Atonement Jesus secured for their salvation... No works religon ceremony saves the unbeliever... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creativemechanic Posted March 22, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,273 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 518 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 12 hours ago, Yowm said: What??? No Cartoon poster. I ain't partaking in this LOL. so.....you commenting that u not commenting.... so why bother then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted March 22, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,644 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,831 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2018 What is called confirmation is conformation actually. To the traditions of men or how men sees it concerning faith, salvation, membership in the local body of those who agree with one another over these details... But in truth, God's confirmation is the only one that matters. John 16:27 (AV) 27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted March 22, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.34 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted March 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, creativemechanic said: so.....you commenting that u not commenting.... so why bother then I think yowm was just trying to be funny due to you always bring cartoons. Anway raise those hands and praise the Lord . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne222 Posted March 22, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 475 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,557 Content Per Day: 2.28 Reputation: 7,637 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Yowm said: 2nd time I tried humor with you but it fell flat each time...I'll give it up with your threads. lol Yowm you get no respect your another rodney ha ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 16 hours ago, Yowm said: What??? No Cartoon poster. I ain't partaking in this LOL. LOL and it was the first topic I can remember that wasn't about girls and dating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joulre2abba Posted March 22, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 463 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 175 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/08/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2018 22 hours ago, creativemechanic said: Ive heard quite a few Anglicans speak of this. Proudly in fact, sometimes equating it with salvation. Its obviusly not, but can anyone explain what it entails. Whats actually said and told because from what i've observed, there are numerous issues with it. 1) seemingly some children were made to go to the classes by their parents (salvation is of free will) 2) Persons would say they were already confirmed (in one case as a response to being sent something encouraging them to accept Jesus as Saviour) but all the while be living blatantly sinful lives- partying, drinking, sleeping with boyfriends/girlfriends, questioning Biblical principles like how we know the bible is true etc. Its concerning because it seems as if its just another man made tradtition that gives unsaved people a false sense of salvation with their lives being a testament to the lack of the actual change Yes, it's like a kid in school being required to do a science project while taking science classes, got their badge for their effort, but they don't go on to become a scientist. Such people who've been confirmed may have regarded it as no more than something they went through but it had no lasting significance for them. It's just a badge they trot out whenever anyone asks if they are saved. But on the other hand, there are those who regard their salvation as significant, yet they still sin.. so what's the difference? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted March 22, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,143 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,438 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Online Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted March 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Yowm said: 2nd time I tried humor with you but it fell flat each time...I'll give it up with your threads. lol maybe it wasn't for him ... I got a chuckle out of it thanks! but of course I am a cartoon poster at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted March 22, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2018 I don't know if this has to do with the topic or not. But seeing as it is getting close to Easter I thought I would bring up Lent. I use to have some co-workers who were Catholic. I do not mean to pass judgment but they did not seem to be Christians. They party, they talk about people and were at times just down right mean to other people. But when Lent came around, they made a point to let people know that they could not eat meat and they had to do this or that because they were practicing Lent. A few of them even complain about having to do it. Then when Lent was over, they went right back to living as they had before. It left me wondering why they bothered with it at all. I guess it is kind of like the Pharisees. Who upheld the Law. But as Jesus told them they were like a cup that is clean on the outside but dirty on the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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