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Satan will do this thing twice .... once at Armageddon [Ezekiel 38; 39;] and then again in Revelation 20:7-8 when he is released from the abyss 1000 years later

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On ‎4‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 6:09 PM, Dennis1209 said:

One fact that's not well know, is Russia's military is comprised of about 40% Muslims, and Islam is the second largest religion in Russia. What do all these countries that's going to invade Israel have in common? 

Are they not the descendants of the Tribe of Dan whom God cursed? and they were scattered?

Amos 8:11-14 gives the last mention of the tribe of Dan in the Old Testament, and it also references their idolatry, "Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it. In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst. THEY THAT SWEAR BY THE SIN OF SAMARIA, and say, THY god, O DAN, LIVETH; and, The manner of Beersheba liveth; EVEN THEY SHALL FALL, AND NEVER RISE UP AGAIN." They swear by the false gods and idols of the tribe of Dan, by which they had become known, and they meet with destruction.

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On 4/6/2018 at 5:18 PM, Daniel 11:36 said:

There is nothing in the Ezekiel 38; 39 setting about Russia

The nations that attack Israel are Middle Eastern and not beyond

This will take place at the middle of the 7 year period

These Muslim nations will attack Israel and then be taken out by the Lord at Armageddon 1260 days later

And the battle discussed is the battle of Armageddon at the end of the 7 year tribulation period

 

Is that so? Pretty sure scripture says a way is prepared for the kings of the EAST during the tribulation to come into Mesopotamia. 

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On 4/6/2018 at 5:18 PM, Daniel 11:36 said:

There is nothing in the Ezekiel 38; 39 setting about Russia

The nations that attack Israel are Middle Eastern and not beyond

This will take place at the middle of the 7 year period

These Muslim nations will attack Israel and then be taken out by the Lord at Armageddon 1260 days later

And the battle discussed is the battle of Armageddon at the end of the 7 year tribulation period

 

Is that so? Pretty sure scripture says a way is prepared for the kings of the EAST during the tribulation to come into Mesopotamia. 

 

On 4/6/2018 at 5:25 PM, tigger398 said:

Rosh is Russia right.

Rosh means 'prince', 'chief' or maybe 'chief prince'. It's a title or an office.

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On 4/6/2018 at 4:36 PM, tigger398 said:

Ok I been hearing news about Russia - Iran and now Turkey all coming together and now all we need is Libya and Ethiopia to finish. So does the rapture happen before the war. Do we need to wait and hear of Libya and Ethiopia. When aWd where does the third temple fit into this. Is that before or after the gog war. Where does the rapture fit in.

The temple comes before. Multitudes in the valley of decision is a day of the Lord moment where the armies of the earth led by Gog of the land of Magog are gathered for a great slaughter, just before the end of the last week.

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The third temple will not be built until the Lord builds it just after the battle of Armageddon [Ezekiel 40] 

There will be no temple during the 70th week decreed .... "without" the temple [Revelation 11:2]  

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11 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

The third temple will not be built until the Lord builds it just after the battle of Armageddon [Ezekiel 40] 

There will be no temple during the 70th week decreed .... "without" the temple [Revelation 11:2]  

There is a great deal of evidence throughout scripture a Temple must stand in Israel. Not only are we told by Jesus to look for the A of D as spoken of by Daniel, Paul describes the same event in 2 Thess 2. From Jewish history the A of D occurred in real time, in a physical Temple. 

How can the man of sin "sit as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.", before the day of the Lord, if there is  no Temple?

Even though the true Temple is the body of believers, corporately and individually, the Jews do not acknowledge this. Their national and religious identity is dependent on the land of Canaan and the Temple building. Do you not pay attention to the wants and needs of the Jewish people?  Israel are the chosen people of God. Gentiles are adopted sons and not natural sons. The Jewish people and all Israel are our people. 

Do you not know the Jews have prepared for the stone Temple to be built? They have everything needed. The Levitic priests are trained. The vessels are complete, red heifers are being raised, the cornerstone exists, etc. Right now. In real time. Physically. The physical Temple will be built and the beast will pave the way for construction. It must be.

I have often wondered why you resort to these chat room guerrilla tactics. Do you fail to use the quote function because you don't want a response? Or is it because you don't want me to know you replied? Both? In any case such behavior is controlling, manipulative and puerile. Unbecoming for a follower of Jesus.

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On 4/17/2018 at 7:56 AM, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira said:

Hi,

Yes, you are right. Gog is the term used for Satan (the Red Dragon).

I'm thinking you cannot prove this because of this:  Rev 20, "Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle." If Gog is Satan then he would be released from prison to go out and deceive himself.

 In truth Gog and Magog represent all the nations of the Earth, as is written in Rev.20:7-8. 

This is true, and confirmed by a study of where the son of Japheth settled and where his descendants flowed, all over the earth. Magog settled in Asia Minor but his progeny went north to Russia, west as far as the UK, and presumably then to the Americas. They merged with the people, or were the first, in the Eurasian Steppes, as far east as Mongolia. That was in ancient times. Today the Land of Magog is, as you say, the people of the earth who are not believers.

 

 

 

 

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On 4/18/2018 at 1:17 AM, Daniel 11:36 said:

Satan will do this thing twice .... once at Armageddon [Ezekiel 38; 39;] and then again in Revelation 20:7-8 when he is released from the abyss 1000 years later

I believe both accounts are talking about the same battle and that it will happen at the end of the 1000 years..

I do not believe that Ezekiel has anything to do with the battle of Armageddon..

 

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"How can the man of sin "sit as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.", before the day of the Lord, if there is  no Temple?"

 

He will sit in the Moslem temple of God, the Dome of the Rock

 

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