Where did Universe come from? - intresting answer to imporant question!

[HAZARD]

2 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Like I already said..

Please leave me alone concerning your views on this matter.obviously our minds are made up.

Easy, stop responding or give us some Scriptures which debunk what I have given. Show us anywhere in the Word of God where it clearly states than God does not have hands, feet, lions, hair, heart, back parts, eyes, that He does not walk, talk or even sits on a throne. That Jesus will not carry His wounds forever? Zec. 13:6, And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.

[HAZARD]

12 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Easy, stop responding or give us some Scriptures which debunk what I have given. Show us anywhere in the Word of God where it clearly states than God does not have hands, feet, lions, hair, heart, back parts, eyes, that He does not walk, talk or even sits on a throne. That Jesus will not carry His wounds forever? Zec. 13:6, And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.

Your reaction, Please stop fighting, What? I'm not fighting, I'm quoting the bible, asking you for Scriptures which prove I am in error, nothing more? I have not called your posts junk, rubbish or heresies?  All I am doing is asking you to show us anywhere in the Word of God where it clearly states than God does not have hands, feet, lions, hair, heart, back parts, eyes, that He does not walk, talk or even sits on a throne. That Jesus will not carry His wounds forever? Zec. 13:6, And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.

Instead of saying please stop fighting after calling what I post junk and rubbish, how about a scripture or two, or say, I have none.

[HAZARD]

13 hours ago, Sojourner414 said:

Is it not enough for you to speak your point; now you must try to grind another's face into the ground? All you have done is to drive away those who came to this board for respite and solid teaching, and bring accusation and shame to the name of Jesus Christ.

Judgment has come... and the lampstand is to be removed  in part because you were not reined in as you should have been.

Woe to you...

Like I said several times, I quoted Scriptures which clearly show that God has a spiritual body with bodily parts, like we, made in His image and likeness have. He eats food, goes from place to place, and Jesus now has a glorified flesh and bone body, with the scares to prove what He went through for us forever. Yowm said my posts were junk. That's no rebutle. Then all I asked for was even one Scripture where God says He has no body. Then he takes that as an argument and tells me to stop fighting? and you agree! You make me laugh.   Calling another members post junk, without proving that in any way is, according to you, drawing those who come to this board for respite and solid teaching. Asking another poster for Scriptures to back up what they say and believe is fighting????  Since when??

Woe unto me?   I'm shaking in my boots!

Seeing you agree with Ywom that my posts are junk by supporting him, maybe you can show us just one scripture where God says He has no body, no hair, no face, no lions, no heart, no back parts, no hands, no fingers, and having no body, does not sin on a throne in Heaven, and Jesus does not have a glorified flesh and bone body.

If you can do that, which apparently Ywom cannot, then I will believe it.

 

[BeyondET]

His Breath...

[BeyondET]

On April 9, 2018 at 4:56 PM, HAZARD said:

God created the heavens and the Earth. Where God lived before He created the heaven is not revealed in Scripture, but we do lnow He created them and those who dwell in them.

Genesis 1:1,In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Revelation 12:12, Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

God knows and has named every star of the heavens,

Psalm 147:4, He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.

 

I find this quite interesting rev 12:12 almost sounds like it is mentioning two here,

1. ye heavens and ye that dwell in them and

2. Woe to the inhabiters of earth.

is there life beyond earth could be, I know it's possible with God.

[KiwiChristian]

Uni=Single

Verse=Spoken sentence.

Universe= Single Spoken Sentence.

 

In the beginning God....

Edited May 17, 2018 by KiwiChristian

[Mike Mclees]

On ‎5‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 5:56 PM, HAZARD said:

Like I said several times, I quoted Scriptures which clearly show that God has a spiritual body with bodily parts, like we, made in His image and likeness have. He eats food, goes from place to place, and Jesus now has a glorified flesh and bone body, with the scares to prove what He went through for us forever. Yowm said my posts were junk. That's no rebutle. Then all I asked for was even one Scripture where God says He has no body. Then he takes that as an argument and tells me to stop fighting? and you agree! You make me laugh.   Calling another members post junk, without proving that in any way is, according to you, drawing those who come to this board for respite and solid teaching. Asking another poster for Scriptures to back up what they say and believe is fighting????  Since when??

Woe unto me?   I'm shaking in my boots!

Seeing you agree with Ywom that my posts are junk by supporting him, maybe you can show us just one scripture where God says He has no body, no hair, no face, no lions, no heart, no back parts, no hands, no fingers, and having no body, does not sin on a throne in Heaven, and Jesus does not have a glorified flesh and bone body.

If you can do that, which apparently Ywom cannot, then I will believe it.

Theres no need to prove anything. No man has seen God except the Son. It says in Hebrews 11:6  That without faith it is impossible to please Him. If any man come to God he must believe that God is and is a rewarder of those who diligently seek after Him. He will  not reveal himself to any who will not believe. He has proved himself by all that has been created. He created the Universe. He does not have tell you where it came from. If you cannot except Him by faith we have nothing to prove to you. 

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Edited June 12, 2018 by Mike Mclees

[HAZARD]

1 hour ago, Mike Mclees said:

Theres no need to prove anything. No man has seen God except the Son. It says in Hebrews 11:6  That without faith it is impossible to please Him. If any man come to God he must believe that God is and is a rewarder of those who diligently seek after Him. He will  not reveal himself to any who will not believe. He has proved himself by all that has been created. He created the Universe. He does not have tell you where it came from. If you cannot except Him by faith we have nothing to prove to you. 

 

This is whatI wrote and believe. God has a body and has been seen by men as Scripture clearly shows. Where have I said God has no body? I believe what read in God's Word, teaches us that God has a body with bodily
parts, hands, feet, eyes, head, mouth, hair, that He speaks, listenes, has a
heart, eats food etc. I have listed many Scriptures which shows this and many
more can be found. Many catholics I have spoken with regarding these Scriptures
do not believe them because it is contrary to their belief that God can be
reduced to a sliver of bread and held in a monstrance or tabernacle.



God has a spirit body with bodily parts like a man. This is proved by hundreds
of Scriptures that do not need interpretation. God is a Spirit being, infinate,
eternal, immutable, self-existent, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent,
invisible, impartial, immortal, absolutely holy, full of wisdom, full of
knowledge, and just in all things. God is known in Scripture by over two
hundred names. He is describes as being like any other person as to having a
body, soul, and spirit (Job 13:8; Heb. 1:3; Dan. 7:9-14;
10:5-7). He is a spirit being with a body (Dan. 7:9-14;
10:5-6, 9-19, Exodus 24:11; Gen. 18' 32:24-32;
Ezek. 1:26-28; Acts 7:54-59; Rev. 4:2-4; 5:1,
5-7; 22:4-5); shape (John 5:37); form
(Phil. 2:5-7, same Greek word as in Mark 16:12, which
refers to bodily form); and an image and likeness of a man (Gen. 1:26; 9:6;
Ezek. 1:26-28; 1 Cor. 11:7; Jas.
3:9; Dan. 7:9-14;
10:5-6).



He has a heart (Gen. 6:6; 8:21);
hands and fingers (Exod. 31:18; Psalms 8:3-6; Rev. 5:1, 6-7);
Nostrils (Ps. 18:8); mouth (Num. 12:8); lips
and tongue (Isa. 30:27; feet
(Ezek. 1:27; Exodus 24:10);
eyes, eyelids, sight (Ps. 11:4; 18:24;
33:18); voice (Ps. 29; Rev. 10:3-4; Gen. 1); breath (Gen. 2:70; ears (Ps. 18:6); head,
hair, face, arms (Dan. 7:9-14;
10:5-19; Rev. 5:1; loins
(Ezek. 1:26:28; 8:1-4); bodily presence (Gen. 3:8; 18:1-22;
Job 1:6-12; 2:1-7;
Exodus 24:10-11);
and many other bodily parts as required by Him to be a person with a body.



God goes from place to place just like any one else (Gen. 3:8; 11:5;
18:1-22, 33; 19:24; 32:24-32; 35:13; Zech. 14:5; Titus 2:13). God
is omnipresent but not omni body, that is His presence can be felt everywhere
but His body is not everywhere. God wears cloths (Dan. 7:9-14;
10:5-19; God eats food (Gen. 18:1-22; Exodus 24:11).



There is not one Scripture in the Bible which states that God is intangible,
immaterial, without a body, or bodily parts, and passions except John 4:24,
"God is a spirit," and this certainly does not teach that He is
without a body.



Paul speaks of the human flesh and bone bodies in the resurrection as being
"Spiritual" (1 Cor. 15:42-44),
like unto Christs glorious body (Luke 24:39; Phil.
3:20-21); so if human bodies that become spiritualized are still material and
tangible, then certainly God and other spirits have bodies just as real and
still be spirit beings. John 4:24 is a
statement of fact that God is a Spirit, but it does not define or analyze a
spirit.

 

Right at the very beginning of the Bible, the Eternal God tells us that He
created mankind in, not the likeness or image of the angels or any other spirit
being, but He formed and gave mankind the IMAGE or LIKENESS of HIMSELF. God
took the dirt of the ground and molded the shape and form of man from it to
resemble the image or shape of very GOD.



God first revealed Himself in a mighty way to Moses from the burning bush. From
that time on the Eternal and Moses were friends with a "buddy-buddy"
relationship. This relationship between the Lord and Moses was so personal that
it is recorded, "And the Lord spoke unto Moses FACE to FACE, as a man
speaks unto a friend...."(Ex.33:11). Now our "no body" for God
teachers will say either this is just a metaphor or God appeared as a human,
but when in the "spirit" He has no body or face. Of course that is
the answer they will give to any section of scripture where God appeared to
men. But there was a time when God appeared to Moses IN THE SPIRIT FORM - the
Lord opening up his eyes to see Himself in the spirit dimension, that the human
eye can not

usually see, Read the example of the servant of Elisha in 2 Kings 6.



So close a relationship did Moses have with God that Moses was so bold as to
ask the Lord to show Himself to him, not as a human but as He really IS. Moses'
request is found in Exodus 33:18.
Notice the reply from the Eternal: "....You can not SEE MY FACE; for no
man can see me and

live."(verse 20). God did not say to Moses that He did not have a body and
so did not have a face and so could not show Himself in the spirit form as
having a shape. To the CONTRARY, the answer to Moses SHOWS CLEARLY GOD DOES
HAVE A FACE AND BODY! He told Moses that no man could look upon the face of God
in spirit form and live. How simpler can the word of God be in this matter? No
theological degree needed to understand this verse, just believe it for what it
says. In Exodus 33 18, Moses asked God to show him His Glory. "And he
said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory." And God said to Moses; "I
will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the
Lord before thee; etc. God also said to Moses, "Thou canst not see my
face; for there shall no man see me and live." Exodus 33:18-20.



Moses asked to see God's glory as expressed in His face or countenance, not to
see His face apart from His glory. That Moses could have seen God's literal
face is clearly stated in verse 11, where it says, "And the Lord spake
unto Moses face to face as a man speaketh unto his friend, and that he had seen
Gods glory in a limited sense is clear from Exodus 16:10; and 24:17; so the
request was for something he had not uet seen. Many others have also seen Gods
face and spirit body apart from the glory of God.



Regarding the impossibility of man beholding the face of God when He
"dwells in a light whom no man has seen nor can see" (1 Tim. 6:16,
Moses became an example of this himself when his face could not be looked upon
by the people, Israel, because of its brightness (Exodus 34:29-35; and 2 Cor.
3:6-18). God showed Moses His glory as expressed in His back parts, or the
glorious after effects and glimpse of the glory after it had passed by (Verse
20-23). God gave Moses a further revelation of His character and infinate
nature in, (Verse 19). The Hebrew word for goodness is "tuwb,"
superlative good; the best of a person; and absolute beauty. This referes to
the infinate beauty or glory of God which was to pass before Moses while he was
hidden in the cleft of the rock (Verse 22).



Jacob saw God FACE TO FACE and lived! "And Jacob called the name of the
place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved"
(Gen. 32:30). Abraham made a dinner for God and two angels and they ate food
(Gen. 18). Moses talked with God face to face (Exodus 33:11-23). Seventy four
elders had a banquet with God in Sinai (Exodus 24:9-11). Joshua and all Israel
saw God with a sword in His hand (Josh. 5:13-15).



Gidion (Judg. 6:11-23), Manoah and wife (Judg. 13:3-23), David (1 Chron.
21:16-17), Job (42:5), Isaiah (6:1-13), Amos (9:1), and others saw God standing
on the ground, sitting on thrones, and having a body with bodily parts like a
man. Ezekiel saw God on a chariot and described Him as having an
"appearance of a man" with loins and the upper and lower parts of a
body like a man (Ezek 1:26-28; 10:1, 20; 40:3). Daniel saw both God the Father
and the Son of man as two separate beiongs at the same time and at the same
place. God was on a throne, and had on white cloths, and His hair was white.
The Son of man also had a body, had cloths on, and had hair on His head (Dan.
7:9-14; 10:5-6). Stephen saw both God and Christ at the same time and place
with the same eyes (Acts 7:56-59).

Edited June 12, 2018 by HAZARD

[Mike Mclees]

10 hours ago, HAZARD said:

nThis is whatI wrote and believe. God has a body and has been seen by men as Scripture clearly shows. Where have I said God has no body? I believe what read in God's Word, teaches us that God has a body with bodily
parts, hands, feet, eyes, head, mouth, hair, that He speaks, listenes, has a
heart, eats food etc. I have listed many Scriptures which shows this and many
more can be found. Many catholics I have spoken with regarding these Scriptures
do not believe them because it is contrary to their belief that God can be
reduced to a sliver of bread and held in a monstrance or tabernacle.



God has a spirit body with bodily parts like a man. This is proved by hundreds
of Scriptures that do not need interpretation. God is a Spirit being, infinate,
eternal, immutable, self-existent, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent,
invisible, impartial, immortal, absolutely holy, full of wisdom, full of
knowledge, and just in all things. God is known in Scripture by over two
hundred names. He is describes as being like any other person as to having a
body, soul, and spirit (Job 13:8; Heb. 1:3; Dan. 7:9-14;
10:5-7). He is a spirit being with a body (Dan. 7:9-14;
10:5-6, 9-19, Exodus 24:11; Gen. 18' 32:24-32;
Ezek. 1:26-28; Acts 7:54-59; Rev. 4:2-4; 5:1,
5-7; 22:4-5); shape (John 5:37); form
(Phil. 2:5-7, same Greek word as in Mark 16:12, which
refers to bodily form); and an image and likeness of a man (Gen. 1:26; 9:6;
Ezek. 1:26-28; 1 Cor. 11:7; Jas.
3:9; Dan. 7:9-14;
10:5-6).



He has a heart (Gen. 6:6; 8:21);
hands and fingers (Exod. 31:18; Psalms 8:3-6; Rev. 5:1, 6-7);
Nostrils (Ps. 18:8); mouth (Num. 12:8); lips
and tongue (Isa. 30:27; feet
(Ezek. 1:27; Exodus 24:10);
eyes, eyelids, sight (Ps. 11:4; 18:24;
33:18); voice (Ps. 29; Rev. 10:3-4; Gen. 1); breath (Gen. 2:70; ears (Ps. 18:6); head,
hair, face, arms (Dan. 7:9-14;
10:5-19; Rev. 5:1; loins
(Ezek. 1:26:28; 8:1-4); bodily presence (Gen. 3:8; 18:1-22;
Job 1:6-12; 2:1-7;
Exodus 24:10-11);
and many other bodily parts as required by Him to be a person with a body.



God goes from place to place just like any one else (Gen. 3:8; 11:5;
18:1-22, 33; 19:24; 32:24-32; 35:13; Zech. 14:5; Titus 2:13). God
is omnipresent but not omni body, that is His presence can be felt everywhere
but His body is not everywhere. God wears cloths (Dan. 7:9-14;
10:5-19; God eats food (Gen. 18:1-22; Exodus 24:11).



There is not one Scripture in the Bible which states that God is intangible,
immaterial, without a body, or bodily parts, and passions except John 4:24,
"God is a spirit," and this certainly does not teach that He is
without a body.



Paul speaks of the human flesh and bone bodies in the resurrection as being
"Spiritual" (1 Cor. 15:42-44),
like unto Christs glorious body (Luke 24:39; Phil.
3:20-21); so if human bodies that become spiritualized are still material and
tangible, then certainly God and other spirits have bodies just as real and
still be spirit beings. John 4:24 is a
statement of fact that God is a Spirit, but it does not define or analyze a
spirit.

 

Right at the very beginning of the Bible, the Eternal God tells us that He
created mankind in, not the likeness or image of the angels or any other spirit
being, but He formed and gave mankind the IMAGE or LIKENESS of HIMSELF. God
took the dirt of the ground and molded the shape and form of man from it to
resemble the image or shape of very GOD.



God first revealed Himself in a mighty way to Moses from the burning bush. From
that time on the Eternal and Moses were friends with a "buddy-buddy"
relationship. This relationship between the Lord and Moses was so personal that
it is recorded, "And the Lord spoke unto Moses FACE to FACE, as a man
speaks unto a friend...."(Ex.33:11). Now our "no body" for God
teachers will say either this is just a metaphor or God appeared as a human,
but when in the "spirit" He has no body or face. Of course that is
the answer they will give to any section of scripture where God appeared to
men. But there was a time when God appeared to Moses IN THE SPIRIT FORM - the
Lord opening up his eyes to see Himself in the spirit dimension, that the human
eye can not

usually see, Read the example of the servant of Elisha in 2 Kings 6.



So close a relationship did Moses have with God that Moses was so bold as to
ask the Lord to show Himself to him, not as a human but as He really IS. Moses'
request is found in Exodus 33:18.
Notice the reply from the Eternal: "....You can not SEE MY FACE; for no
man can see me and

live."(verse 20). God did not say to Moses that He did not have a body and
so did not have a face and so could not show Himself in the spirit form as
having a shape. To the CONTRARY, the answer to Moses SHOWS CLEARLY GOD DOES
HAVE A FACE AND BODY! He told Moses that no man could look upon the face of God
in spirit form and live. How simpler can the word of God be in this matter? No
theological degree needed to understand this verse, just believe it for what it
says. In Exodus 33 18, Moses asked God to show him His Glory. "And he
said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory." And God said to Moses; "I
will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the
Lord before thee; etc. God also said to Moses, "Thou canst not see my
face; for there shall no man see me and live." Exodus 33:18-20.



Moses asked to see God's glory as expressed in His face or countenance, not to
see His face apart from His glory. That Moses could have seen God's literal
face is clearly stated in verse 11, where it says, "And the Lord spake
unto Moses face to face as a man speaketh unto his friend, and that he had seen
Gods glory in a limited sense is clear from Exodus 16:10; and 24:17; so the
request was for something he had not uet seen. Many others have also seen Gods
face and spirit body apart from the glory of God.



Regarding the impossibility of man beholding the face of God when He
"dwells in a light whom no man has seen nor can see" (1 Tim. 6:16,
Moses became an example of this himself when his face could not be looked upon
by the people, Israel, because of its brightness (Exodus 34:29-35; and 2 Cor.
3:6-18). God showed Moses His glory as expressed in His back parts, or the
glorious after effects and glimpse of the glory after it had passed by (Verse
20-23). God gave Moses a further revelation of His character and infinate
nature in, (Verse 19). The Hebrew word for goodness is "tuwb,"
superlative good; the best of a person; and absolute beauty. This referes to
the infinate beauty or glory of God which was to pass before Moses while he was
hidden in the cleft of the rock (Verse 22).



Jacob saw God FACE TO FACE and lived! "And Jacob called the name of the
place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved"
(Gen. 32:30). Abraham made a dinner for God and two angels and they ate food
(Gen. 18). Moses talked with God face to face (Exodus 33:11-23). Seventy four
elders had a banquet with God in Sinai (Exodus 24:9-11). Joshua and all Israel
saw God with a sword in His hand (Josh. 5:13-15).



Gidion (Judg. 6:11-23), Manoah and wife (Judg. 13:3-23), David (1 Chron.
21:16-17), Job (42:5), Isaiah (6:1-13), Amos (9:1), and others saw God standing
on the ground, sitting on thrones, and having a body with bodily parts like a
man. Ezekiel saw God on a chariot and described Him as having an
"appearance of a man" with loins and the upper and lower parts of a
body like a man (Ezek 1:26-28; 10:1, 20; 40:3). Daniel saw both God the Father
and the Son of man as two separate beiongs at the same time and at the same
place. God was on a throne, and had on white cloths, and His hair was white.
The Son of man also had a body, had cloths on, and had hair on His head (Dan.
7:9-14; 10:5-6). Stephen saw both God and Christ at the same time and place
with the same eyes (Acts 7:56-59).

God can be anything He wants. He could be flesh, or he could be physical and spirit at the same time, Jesus waked through walls and still be touched or he could be present but not seen. There us nothing impossible for God. Yet there is still one thing that still Is hard to grasp. God is omnipresent.  It say in John ten that he knows and calls His sheep by Name yet His sheep are as countless as the sand of the sea, yet he listens and answers their prayer. The world we live is as small as what we call in Florida  a no seam, but you can feel him bite, compared to the unlimited stars of the universe among millions of other galaxies that stretch to infinity. So you say he is flesh yet he is also omniscient, oomnipresent being  all places of time and space. Such a God is God. How can you describe Him. Moses wanted to see HIm and He only let Him see His back as he passed by.

Mike M

God bless

Edited June 12, 2018 by Mike Mclees

[Mike Mclees]

I am adding Today "MY Daily Bread " June twelve lesson for today. In my above  post which I wrote before I read the lesson. In it  I spoke of the Miracle of God being able to know each of us personally by our name. To give credible evidence of this here is today devotion. Check it out if you like. Our God Is awesome.

The Title was Called by Name     Well it won't let me copy paste But I will write the statement at the end of the lesson

The God who created the cosmos also made you and calls you by Name 

This was after the fact. I did not know the lesson before time. God has spoken to me many times with my devotionals. This is for real.

I pray every day before I read the lessons. He is always with us if we are with HIm

Mike M   God bless 

  

 

 

 

 

Edited June 12, 2018 by Mike Mclees