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The Biblical teachings of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Church

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47 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

It appears post trib believers have lost their light and or saltiness. They are unable to be a witness. For there is an Angel flying in midair proclaiming the eternal Gospel. A message these post tribbers should be proclaiming.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Huh?

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On 5/26/2018 at 10:45 PM, Mike Mclees said:

The 24 elders are the leaders of the pre Trib church?  Now that's a real stretch of the imagination for ya.  Who made that up? Might need a few more egg shells to hold that one up.    

 

Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ,

Mike, it appears that you have misunderstood the comment. These are two of the twisted teachings believed by many pretribulationists.

Hallelujah

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On ‎5‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 12:05 PM, Daniel 11:36 said:

Revelation

4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

4:3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

4:4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold

 

John was taken into the future to  be shown the "things hereafter" and he saw the 24 elders .... the leaders of the pre-tribulation church [Revelation 7:9-17] 

 

 

What John saw in Rev.4 was the throne of God together with those of the 24 Elders, already there.

 

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On 6/7/2018 at 3:24 PM, Quasar93 said:
On 5/19/2018 at 1:05 PM, Daniel 11:36 said:

Revelation

4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

4:3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

4:4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold

 

John was taken into the future to  be shown the "things hereafter" and he saw the 24 elders .... the leaders of the pre-tribulation church [Revelation 7:9-17] 

 

What John saw in Rev.4 was the throne of God together with those of the 24 Elders, already there.

Can we know what the throne of God is like?

Firstly we must understand that the expression "God" is a title. So, who is Him? Well, the Word is God (John 1:v1). Yes, the Word is God, the Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent, reason by which what is written in the book of God it fulfils itself automatically because the Word is the invisible God, God the Father, the Creator God. When I say: the Spirit of God, I mean the Spirit of the Word. When I say: God is Spirit, I mean the Word is Spirit. 

Knowing that God is the Word, then I ask: How can we know what the throne of God is like?  Psalms 97:v.2 reveals us the foundation of His throne, as follow:
Psa. 97:v.2 AKJV - ... Righteousness and Judgment are the foundation of His throne.  Yea, Righteousness and Judgment are the foundation of  God's throne, both Righteousness and Judgment are implicit in the Word. (the Word is God, the Person is the Word, God is a title).

 

OK. And who are the 24 elders, which are enthroned around God's throne clothed in white raiment and they have on their heads crowns of gold? 

They are the 24 messengers of the Word (the Word is God):
1 - Moses 
2 - Joshua
3 - Samuel
4 - Ezra
5 - Nehemiah
6 - Job
7 - David
8 - Solomon
9 - Isaiah
10 - Jeremiah
11 - Ezekiel
12 - Daniel
13 - Hosea
14 - Joel
15 - Amos
16 - Obadiah
17 - Jonah
18 - Micah
19 - Nahum
20 - Habakkuk
21 - Zephaniah
22 - Haggai
23 - Zechariah
24 - Malachi

And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.  (What are the seven Spirits of God?  (the Word is God)

Rev. 4:10-12 KJV
10 The four and twenty elders fall down before Him that sat on the throne, and worship Him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive Glory and Honour and Power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Amen.

And who will Judge the twelve tribes of Israel?

Matthew 19:27-28KJV

27 Then answered Peter and said unto JESUS, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?

28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of His glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Now unto the King Eternal, Immortal, Invisible, the only wise God, be Honour and Glory for ever and ever. Amen.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings and LORD of lords
Oseas

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