Mishael Posted April 18, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/04/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2018 Just now, OneGodBeliever said: Did you know God calls many others as his sons in bible and I think two others as begotten of God? Only Jesus is reffered to as the only begotten son of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Just now, OneGodBeliever said: Did you know God calls many others as his sons in bible and I think two others as begotten of God? Yes, but the Bible is very careful, especially in the Greek and Hebrew to differentiate between Jesus as THE Son of God and other people "sons of God." It is a totally different usage. The English language isn't good at bearing out that nuance, but it is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishael Posted April 18, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/04/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, OneGodBeliever said: Like God created Adam without a mother and a father, he can create Jesus without a father. Its blasphemy to say God has a son. What verse in quran If Allah had willed to choose a son, He could have chosen what He would of that which He hath created. Be He Glorified! He is Allah, the One, the Absolute. Qur'an 39:4 Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth; How can He have a son when He has no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things Qur'an 6:101 So now stop playing and answer my question, is Allah incapable of creating a son or is he capable but not wanting. I was born Muslim, but I left Islam when many of your so called scholars wouldn't answer questions like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishael Posted April 18, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/04/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, OneGodBeliever said: Like God created Adam without a mother and a father, he can create Jesus without a father. Its blasphemy to say God has a son. What verse in quran If Allah had willed to choose a son, He could have chosen what He would of that which He hath created. Be He Glorified! He is Allah, the One, the Absolute. Qur'an 39:4 Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth; How can He have a son when He has no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things Qur'an 6:101 So now stop playing and answer my question, is Allah incapable of creating a son or is he capable but not wanting. I was born Muslim, but I left Islam when many of your so called scholars couldn't answer questions like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneGodBeliever Posted April 18, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 2 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 120 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/18/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2018 39 minutes ago, Mishael said: Only Jesus is reffered to as the only begotten son of God. Psalms 2:7 "I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me (King David), Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishael Posted April 18, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/04/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, OneGodBeliever said: Psalms 2:7 "I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me (King David), Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee." Psalm 2:7 is a prophecy about Jesus, so it's still talking about Jesus Christ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeTwo Posted April 18, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 58 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/13/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, OneGodBeliever said: I am not saying Jesus was like Adam. I'm saying God wants something to happen he wishes it and it happens. Can you direct me to verse where Allah says he needs wife! Sura 6: 100,101 -- Yet they make the Jinns equals with Allah, though Allah did create the Jinns; and they falsely, having no knowledge, attribute to Him sons and daughters. Praise and glory be to Him! (for He is) above what they attribute to Him!; To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeTwo Posted April 18, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 58 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/13/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 hours ago, OneGodBeliever said: Did you know God calls many others as his sons in bible and I think two others as begotten of God? I asked you: What do you think "begotten" means? The Greek word is monogenes. In the case of Jesus it means only, unique, one of a kind, like no other. It does not mean God had sex with Mary and Jesus was the result as the Qur'an inplies. The same word is used for Isaac in the New Testament: Hebrews 11:17-19 Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB) 17 By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac. He received the promises and he was offering his unique son, 18 the one it had been said about, Your seed will be traced[a] through Isaac.[b] 19 He considered God to be able even to raise someone from the dead, and as an illustration,[c] he received him back. We know Isaac was not Abraham's son, but Isaac is the only, unique, one of a kind, like no other. Where in the Qur'an does your Allah has sons as YHWH does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeTwo Posted April 18, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 58 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/13/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 hours ago, OneGodBeliever said: Psalms 2:7 "I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me (King David), Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee." Psalms 2:7, "Let me tell of the decree: the LORD said to me, 'You are My Son,' I have fathered you this day."(Hebrew translation from the Tanakh) God has adopted David as His son. David has a special relationship with God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeTwo Posted April 18, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 58 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/13/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Mishael said: Psalm 2:7 is a prophecy about Jesus, so it's still talking about Jesus Christ. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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