OneGodBeliever Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 2 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 120 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/18/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, Mishael said: You can research it, but see how you Muslims lie. Same way you can research that Christianity is alien conspiracy to destroy humankind. You can research it, but see how you Christians lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneGodBeliever Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 2 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 120 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/18/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 47 minutes ago, TheMatrixHasU71 said: You are sounding a lot like me before Jesus saved me. All the proof in the world will not ever convince people like you. You could have shown me Jesus face to face and I would have blown him off as an alien from Star Trek or something. Look it up yourself its easy enough. If you arent afraid of the truth do your own homework I believe in facts and proof. I hear everyday godmen who are so called Muslims claiming prophethood and miracles. I don't believe anyone who claims such things. I compare Quran and Bible and I know what is the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneGodBeliever Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 2 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 120 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/18/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Mishael said: Never said the Bible was a Bronze Age tradition, it just records Bronze Age traditions in it both as a way of conveying history accurately and predicting the messiah who is Jesus Christ. You have not replied to my previous comment where I said So not all Bible is inspired by God but contains bronze age traditions also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeTwo Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 58 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/13/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, OneGodBeliever said: Same way you can research that Christianity is alien conspiracy to destroy humankind. You can research it, but see how you Christians lie If some Christians lie, they are not following Jesus. Aren't Muslims allowed to lie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishael Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/04/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 Abraham wasn't created like Adam he only was born physically in the world however it's clear according to his own words he already was in existence prior to the incarnation. John 8:58 "Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMatrixHasU71 Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,573 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 723 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, OneGodBeliever said: I believe in facts and proof. I hear everyday godmen who are so called Muslims claiming prophethood and miracles. I don't believe anyone who claims such things. I compare Quran and Bible and I know what is the truth Really...even though the Quran was written 600+ years after Jesus? would you believe something so incredibly out of date rather than reading contemporary scriptures about Him? http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/aboutbible.htm The last part of it says We must also point out that the idea of the Bible being corrupt was first promoted by Ibn Khazem (d. 1064 A.D.) as a means of avoiding the obvious contradictions between the Bible and the Quran. Believing that the Quran could not possibly have been corrupted, he then assumed that it was the Bible that underwent textual modifications. This, he felt, must have been the case (cf. Gerhard Nehls, Dear Abdallah, Letter 2). Read the whole site too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishael Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/04/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, OneGodBeliever said: You have not replied to my previous comment where I said So not all Bible is inspired by God but contains bronze age traditions also? Bronze Age traditions, the Bible isn't teaching Bronze Age traditions, the Bible is inspired by God in the sense it records the history of the prophets and the traditions of the Jews at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneGodBeliever Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 2 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 120 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/18/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, GeorgeTwo said: If some Christians lie, they are not following Jesus. Aren't Muslims allowed to lie? Shias lie not Muslims. Shias are like your Catholics which go against the Quran( for Catholics Bible). No point in discussing as this will not go anywhere. Let's stick to our personal conversation for now. Edited April 20, 2018 by OneGodBeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneGodBeliever Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 2 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 120 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/18/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Mishael said: Bronze Age traditions, the Bible isn't teaching Bronze Age traditions, the Bible is inspired by God in the sense it records the history of the prophets and the traditions of the Jews at the time. What i said was, do you agree not all of Bible is inspired by God as some are records of traditions of bronze age. I am sure the question is quite clear Edited April 20, 2018 by OneGodBeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneGodBeliever Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 2 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 120 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/18/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, TheMatrixHasU71 said: Really...even though the Quran was written 600+ years after Jesus? would you believe something so incredibly out of date rather than reading contemporary scriptures about Him? http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/aboutbible.htm The last part of it says We must also point out that the idea of the Bible being corrupt was first promoted by Ibn Khazem (d. 1064 A.D.) as a means of avoiding the obvious contradictions between the Bible and the Quran. Believing that the Quran could not possibly have been corrupted, he then assumed that it was the Bible that underwent textual modifications. This, he felt, must have been the case (cf. Gerhard Nehls, Dear Abdallah, Letter 2). Read the whole site too We can analyse the scriptures today. I'm not relying on anyone's opinion but stating what is written in bible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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