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The pope is a Jesuit. They make up their own rules. If it advances the cause of the papacy they will convince anyone of anything.

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The pope's defenders here use all-or-nothing logic. They say the pope had to choose between "happy in heaven" or "burning in hell" and there was no in between. This is a false dichotomy. Unbelievers tell children every day that some dead relative isn't in heaven. Many atheists out there hold to their convictions stronger than many Christians, and they hold to atheist teaching even during funerals.

We've offered many answers the pope could have given, and his defenders keep ignoring them. They are not here to defend his sensitivity; they are here to defend the false answer. It's one thing to say you can't judge, you don't know, or you're hoping for the best. It is quite another to say an atheist is in heaven because he was a good man.

Because he was a good man. Let that sink in. Not because Jesus may have spared him. Not because he may have encountered God. Because raising a good child was enough to make him a good man, and that's the qualification for heaven. Let's remember, this is the same pope who interviewed with an atheist reporter last month and basically said the same thing. How many times does this have to happen before people get it through their heads that it's what the pope really thinks??

People say the child will one day grow up to know better. If he grows up Catholic, he'll grow up being told how the pope is in charge and the pope knows best, and he'll remember that personal word from the pope for his whole life. And what, you really think he will turn 18 or so and then make the painful, agonizing choice to say the pope lied and his father might not have made it? That's a pretty big stretch.

Once this becomes more mainstream "Christian" teaching, good luck telling any unbeliever they need Jesus to make it to heaven. Why should they believe you when the pope says otherwise?

 

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The pope is a liar pure and simple..  I am glad my Rock is the Word of God and not the word of that deceiver..

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The modern Catholic church, despite her attempts to convince protestants otherwise still adheres to the council of Trent. That council affirmed that only through  papal approval can anyone go to heaven. They hold the keys right? So if the pope says some atheist is in heaven, I guess it's because the pope used his authority to override the entire Bible and the government of God and sent that boy's father there cos that's the kind of good guy the pope is.

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5 hours ago, Goldie said:

Jesus is God. Compassion and mercy. That boy heard from Jesus. 

People should not put God into a box. God is loving and full of compassion.

The thing is Goldie,   we aint the ones putting GOD in  a box.    We the ones telling of THE GOD WHOSE WORD BECAME FLESH and THAT SAVOIR

JESUS ,   he never left a inkling of doubt that HE alone is the ONLY one who can save.  

HIS WORDS,   go ye into all the world ,  preach the gospel , those who believe are saved , those who reject are damned.  

Don't put GOD in a box theology , sure seems to have taken GOD out of HIS OWN sayings and made HIM SO LARGE and loving , that their version CONTRADICTS

the biblical version of GOD.    They make him so BIG their version has him saying and doing things that contradict HIMSELF , HIS NATURE .    And folks

that is scary,   cause their is one who would try and get us to worship a god that denies THE GOD .   and we all know who that one is .   SO lets flee this GOD In a box hoax.

and return to the GOD in the bible TRUTH.

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4 hours ago, enoob57 said:

humanism what a disgusting smell of rot and filth.... 

Have to agree .     How to say this ,   well lets just say this smell resembles  what comes out of the south end of  northbound mule.    

And I think we all smart enough to know what that is .     SNIFF , SNIFF,    ooops

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57 minutes ago, pg4Him said:

The pope's defenders here use all-or-nothing logic. They say the pope had to choose between "happy in heaven" or "burning in hell" and there was no in between. This is a false dichotomy. Unbelievers tell children every day that some dead relative isn't in heaven. Many atheists out there hold to their convictions stronger than many Christians, and they hold to atheist teaching even during funerals.

We've offered many answers the pope could have given, and his defenders keep ignoring them. They are not here to defend his sensitivity; they are here to defend the false answer. It's one thing to say you can't judge, you don't know, or you're hoping for the best. It is quite another to say an atheist is in heaven because he was a good man.

Because he was a good man. Let that sink in. Not because Jesus may have spared him. Not because he may have encountered God. Because raising a good child was enough to make him a good man, and that's the qualification for heaven. Let's remember, this is the same pope who interviewed with an atheist reporter last month and basically said the same thing. How many times does this have to happen before people get it through their heads that it's what the pope really thinks??

People say the child will one day grow up to know better. If he grows up Catholic, he'll grow up being told how the pope is in charge and the pope knows best, and he'll remember that personal word from the pope for his whole life. And what, you really think he will turn 18 or so and then make the painful, agonizing choice to say the pope lied and his father might not have made it? That's a pretty big stretch.

Once this becomes more mainstream "Christian" teaching, good luck telling any unbeliever they need Jesus to make it to heaven. Why should they believe you when the pope says otherwise?

 

Reread your last sentence .    THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT .  this whole SHOW is propaganda.   THEY WANT TO OMIT the only obstacle in the way

of having all religons meet and agree.    THE ONE thing stopping THIS ,   IS the statement of JESUS which clearly says HE IS THE ONLY WAY PEROID .

THIS has been under attack and it is going mainstream , its been the goal , its been their dream , they will stop at nothing to have their utopia which

gives them more power and more control.    Why you think in one breath the pope says THIS

and in another breath he puffs out how dangerous fundementals are , and how preaching the gospel is no different that JIHAD.   THEY GROOMING the world and relgions.

This whole working is of satan .   to convince the world as ONE MIND and HEART , that ones like us are untolerant biggots and then convince them

ITS TIME TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT these biggots .    ITS COMING , nothing will stop this .   ALL foretold these days were .    I stand against the dungpile

and I hope many more will too.  WE preach JESUS ONLY and no other mindset will we say , and if it costs us our life

THEN SO BE IT ,  FOR WE HAVE life far more than just breath ,  ETERNAL LIFE IN JESUS is what his lambs HAVE . 

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I am warning us all, this mindset is not going to jus fade away.  ITS GOING to go viral.  and for years religions , even christanity have been groomed for this message.

Under all inclusive , a God that is all loving and forgiving even if they deny His son .   Sermons have kept getting worse and worse , till now

this will be able to speedily enter into many minds .  THEY see a GOD so big that he is incapable now of doing THE VERY THINGS HE SAID HE WOULD DO .

A nasty strong delusion is building .     And talk about A strong delusion.    Its one thing to get the world to buy the lie .   BUT the entire foundation of the christain

religion OF JESUS , OUR FOUNDATION ,  they now will convince christains too ,  the JESUS IS NOT THE ONLY WAY.

TALK about delusion .   That is the entire FOUNDATION of our ENTIRE RELIGOIN .    Once its removed GUESS WHO the foundation they point too IS

a hint....................AND HE shall exalt himself above all gods ,   ABOVE ALL    ,    THE SON OF PERDTION .  ITS WHERE THIS IS HEADED .   WAKE UP folks and stop

supporing ROME or anyone who would have unity with that .   ITS JESUS ONLY TIME .  TIME TO GET HIS PATTERN and HIS SAYINGS back in churches again .

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5 hours ago, Goldie said:

Jesus is God. Compassion and mercy. That boy heard from Jesus. 

People should not put God into a box. God is loving and full of compassion.

 That boy heard from Jesus

BUT GOLDIE the last time I checked it was pope francis he heard from,  NOT JESUS ,  

FROM JESUS ,     FROM JESUS ,    that pope aint even a shell of JESUS .    Aint even a reminder OF JESUS .  not a bit

Oh, that poor child heard from a man ,  but that man knows NOT JESUS or he would NOT say the things he has said.

Now,   the pope does have a lamblike appearance about him , in that he does good works and etc

BUT watch out when it  speaks................cause when it does ,  it sure is sounding more like a dragon THAN the LAMB .

These are highly deceptive days .  

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6 hours ago, Goldie said:

God IS mercy, AND love.

The Pope did the right thing.

Sola Scripture people are stuck solid in the black and white of the Bible. God is all forgiving and loving. God can do what He finds correct.

The jews were going to stone the adulterer because it was 'written'. Jesus changed that by a few words!

God IS mercy, AND love

YES HE IS .    ITS why HE SENT the ONLY ONE WHO COULD SAVE US .    might want to remember that , the next time this pope or any other

comes trying to preach good works .   KNOW what I MEAN.     JESUS DID COME to be the savoir .   He was brutally beaten down , brutally scourged

and brutally crucified.   BUT NOT SO POPEY DOO could MOCK HIM and say the things he does .  JESUS DID NOT DIE so we could say good works saves

Every whip on his back was not so he could be denied as savoir by mens agendas .   From the crown of thorns to the nailed wrists

to the large nail drove between his feet   , from the scourgings to the mockings , it was for us , so that all who believed would be saved.

NOT for the pope and men to be able to lie and spread their wicked propaganda.   NEWS ALERT,  ones like that GET TOLD I NEVER KNEW YOU . 

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