pope tells boy his atheist dad is in heaven

[Guest Butero]

1 hour ago, Goldie said:

More to it than just black and white. They had become children of satan!

People that are atheists would be children of the devil along with liars.

[Goldie]

Back to post a true source for what the pope said:

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2018/04/16/is-my-dad-in-heaven-little-boy-asks-pope/

After circling a massive, crumbling public housing complex on the outskirts of Rome, Pope Francis had an emotional encounter with the neighbourhood’s children.

Question-and-answer sessions with youngsters are a standard part of Pope Francis’ parish visits. And, at St Paul of the Cross parish on April 15, there were the usual questions like, “How did you feel when you were elected Pope?”

But then it was Emanuele’s turn. The young boy smiled at the pope as he approached the microphone. But then froze. “I can’t do it,” Emanuele said.

Mgr Leonardo Sapienza, a papal aide, encouraged the boy, but he kept saying, “I can’t.”

“Come, come to me, Emanuele,” the Pope said. “Come and whisper it in my ear.”

Msgr. Sapienza helped the boy up to the platform where the pope was seated. Emanuele was sobbing by that point, and Pope Francis enveloped him in a big embrace, patting his head and speaking softly to him.

With their heads touching, the Pope and the boy spoke privately to each other before Emanuele returned to his seat.

“If only we could all cry like Emanuele when we have an ache in our hearts like he has,” the Pope told the children. “He was crying for his father and had the courage to do it in front of us because in his heart there is love for his father.”

Pope Francis said he had asked Emanuele if he could share the boy’s question and the boy agreed. “‘A little while ago my father passed away. He was a nonbeliever, but he had all four of his children baptised. He was a good man. Is dad in heaven?'”

“How beautiful to hear a son say of his father, ‘He was good,'” the Pope told the children. “And what a beautiful witness of a son who inherited the strength of his father, who had the courage to cry in front of all of us. If that man was able to make his children like that, then it’s true, he was a good man. He was a good man.

“That man did not have the gift of faith, he wasn’t a believer, but he had his children baptised. He had a good heart,” Pope Francis said.

“God is the one who says who goes to heaven,” the Pope explained.

The next step in answering Emanuele’s question, he said, would be to think about what God is like and, especially, what kind of heart God has. “What do you think? A father’s heart. God has a dad’s heart. And with a dad who was not a believer, but who baptised his children and gave them that bravura, do you think God would be able to leave him far from himself?”

“Does God abandon his children?” the Pope asked. “Does God abandon his children when they are good?”

The children shouted, “No.”

Nowhere does the Pope tell the child that his dad is going heaven!

Edited April 19, 2018 by Goldie

[Guest Butero]

38 minutes ago, Goldie said:

Back to post a true source for what the pope said:

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2018/04/16/is-my-dad-in-heaven-little-boy-asks-pope/

After circling a massive, crumbling public housing complex on the outskirts of Rome, Pope Francis had an emotional encounter with the neighbourhood’s children.

Question-and-answer sessions with youngsters are a standard part of Pope Francis’ parish visits. And, at St Paul of the Cross parish on April 15, there were the usual questions like, “How did you feel when you were elected Pope?”

But then it was Emanuele’s turn. The young boy smiled at the pope as he approached the microphone. But then froze. “I can’t do it,” Emanuele said.

Mgr Leonardo Sapienza, a papal aide, encouraged the boy, but he kept saying, “I can’t.”

“Come, come to me, Emanuele,” the Pope said. “Come and whisper it in my ear.”

Msgr. Sapienza helped the boy up to the platform where the pope was seated. Emanuele was sobbing by that point, and Pope Francis enveloped him in a big embrace, patting his head and speaking softly to him.

With their heads touching, the Pope and the boy spoke privately to each other before Emanuele returned to his seat.

“If only we could all cry like Emanuele when we have an ache in our hearts like he has,” the Pope told the children. “He was crying for his father and had the courage to do it in front of us because in his heart there is love for his father.”

Pope Francis said he had asked Emanuele if he could share the boy’s question and the boy agreed. “‘A little while ago my father passed away. He was a nonbeliever, but he had all four of his children baptised. He was a good man. Is dad in heaven?'”

“How beautiful to hear a son say of his father, ‘He was good,'” the Pope told the children. “And what a beautiful witness of a son who inherited the strength of his father, who had the courage to cry in front of all of us. If that man was able to make his children like that, then it’s true, he was a good man. He was a good man.

“That man did not have the gift of faith, he wasn’t a believer, but he had his children baptised. He had a good heart,” Pope Francis said.

“God is the one who says who goes to heaven,” the Pope explained.

The next step in answering Emanuele’s question, he said, would be to think about what God is like and, especially, what kind of heart God has. “What do you think? A father’s heart. God has a dad’s heart. And with a dad who was not a believer, but who baptised his children and gave them that bravura, do you think God would be able to leave him far from himself?”

“Does God abandon his children?” the Pope asked. “Does God abandon his children when they are good?”

The children shouted, “No.”

Nowhere does the Pope tell the child that his dad is going heaven!

If he didn't do it, good, but you and others said it was ok if he did lie.

[pg4Him]

Well @Davidaif you work on the assumption that God’s creatures are all His children, it makes perfect sense. It’s really just a roundabout way of saying good people go to heaven. 

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2 hours ago, Goldie said:

Had my say in this thread. Out of here now.

God bless and protect you all.

God bless our Pope too.

Our pope.     not mine .    not mine .    I follow Christ and anything that contradicts him,   NO gets followed . 

[Goldie]

39 minutes ago, Davida said:

Oh Puhleeze.   The Pope lied.  "Does God abandon his children?” the Pope asked. “Does God abandon his children when they are good?”   

He as much as told the boy an out an out lie and the Pope also slanders the LORD GOD because he is as much as rebuking the Gospel of Jesus saying if GOD sends people  to hell who are "good" by world standards then God is a bad Father because the 'good ' father sends His children to heaven when they are "good".  The Pope tries to render Jesus sacrifice on the cross useless. It is blasphemy.  Why does the Pope always pit himself against the Bible and the gospel of Jesus?  Our works has nothing to do with being saved from our sins. All false religions and false Christianity claims that faith plus works saves us and that is a lie.

Hd never said that the boys dad is in heaven! Get over it for goodness sake! Stop the Catholic bashing buddy! 

[ayin jade]

3 hours ago, Goldie said:

We are all the children of God. God created us all. Gave us all souls.

Jesus is mercy and love. He would be compassionate with the child, not harsh like many of you. You are rooted in Sola Scripture. You cannot see passed the rear cover of the Bible!

I believe Jesus would be so much more caring than what many of you make out. I applaud the Pope for being compassionate to such a young child.

Please show scripture that says we are all children of God. I showed you scripture that says not everyone is a child of God. 

Anything past the rear cover of the bible isnt the word of God. I take the word of God over the word of man. 

It is possible to be caring and loving and still proclaim the truth. There was no need to lie to spare the childs feelings. 

The pope proclaimed a false gospel. What does the bible say about that? Hint: Galatians 1:6-9.

[ayin jade]

3 hours ago, Goldie said:

You tell me? They had 'become' children of satan. Just like, satan was once a child of God! He became fallen!

The bible says we become children of God ONLY when we believe in Jesus. 

John 1:12 But as many as received Him, He gave to them authority to become the children of God, to those who believe on His name,
13 who were born, not of bloods, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, butwere born of God.

Please show scripture that says the unbelievers are also children of God.

[ayin jade]

3 hours ago, pg4Him said:

But we should probably drop this.  It’s not like anyone ever changes their mind on an Internet forum.  

Actually folks have changed their minds. There are folks who have gotten saved on worthy. 

[Goldie]

5 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

Please show scripture that says we are all children of God. I showed you scripture that says not everyone is a child of God. 

Anything past the rear cover of the bible isnt the word of God. I take the word of God over the word of man. 

It is possible to be caring and loving and still proclaim the truth. There was no need to lie to spare the childs feelings. 

The pope proclaimed a false gospel. What does the bible say about that? Hint: Galatians 1:6-9.

Read what the Pope said. He did NOT say the boys father was in heaven.

This thread is about Catholic bashing and thats that!

Definitely out of here now!