4LdKHVCzRDj2 Posted June 2, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 17 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,453 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 1,453 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/02/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1991 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Yowm said: Oh just peachy keen. Whenever one asks for proof from scripture, the answer is that 'they are spiritually discerned' with a complementary dig, "If you are not seeing it, ask it from God". That is what constitutes false prophets. If I pick a verse and shows that to an uninformed person for example will he understand the spiritual meaning of it? Obviously, no. And this applies to many prophecies, for example, there are things I do not understand what people are talking about. They claim they are seeing it clearly, but I just cannot understand... And I will continue not to, unless God reveals and confirms it to me. They are not false prophets just because they are understanding what I am not. Edited June 2, 2018 by 4LdKHVCzRDj2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted June 2, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 I suppose they're false if they're not preaching a Grace Gospel. Phl 1:7 Even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defence and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace. Heb 6:16 For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife. Heb 6:17 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath: Heb 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us: Heb 6:19 Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil; Heb 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4LdKHVCzRDj2 Posted June 2, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 17 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,453 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 1,453 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/02/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1991 Share Posted June 2, 2018 52 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said: If false prophets can't know they're false, then God is a comedian for real. False prophets are mostly deceived... They decided to believe a lie, and consequently reject God's truth and love. "But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by justice and the love of God." - Luke 11:42 "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world - our faith." - 1 John 5:3-4 "He who does not love does not know God, for God is love." - 1 John 4:8 "We love Him because He first loved us." - 1 John 4:19 "But if anyone loves God, this one is known by Him." - 1 Corinthians 8:3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4LdKHVCzRDj2 Posted June 2, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 17 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,453 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 1,453 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/02/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1991 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Yowm said: but you already excluded them from being 'prophets in the spiritual sense'. False prophets are all spirits that are not of God. There are many counterfeits of the gospel, there are many people who claim to believe in Christ... But just because they say this does not mean they are indeed His, what will confirm if what they are saying is true are the fruits. "He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked." - 1 John 2:6 False prophets walk in rebellion against Jesus words and instructions. "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me." - John 14:24 False prophets cannot walk according to the Spirit of God, as this is only possible for those who are His. "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God." - Romans 8:14 Edited June 2, 2018 by 4LdKHVCzRDj2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4LdKHVCzRDj2 Posted June 2, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 17 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,453 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 1,453 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/02/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1991 Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Yowm said: prophets in the spiritual sense Prophets, in many cases, are just that: spirits. "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves." - Matthew 7:15 "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world." - 1 John 4:1 False prophets = evil spirits, those who are led by deceitful spirits. Prophets = spirit of truth, those who are led by the Spirit of God. False prophets are master of deceits, they try to offer something that appears nice but inwardly are full of: deceit, death, uncleanness. Why? Because false prophets cannot do the same works the Spirit of God can: sanctification, truth, authentic deliverance, forgiveness, salvation. "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." - 2 Corinthians 5:17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted June 2, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, 4LdKHVCzRDj2 said: False prophets are mostly deceived... They decided to believe a lie, and consequently reject God's truth and love. "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world - our faith." - 1 John 5:3-4 Commandments, as in? Jhn 13:34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” Jhn 15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. Gal 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. God bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4LdKHVCzRDj2 Posted June 2, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 17 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,453 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 1,453 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/02/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1991 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said: Commandments, as in? Jhn 13:34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” Jhn 15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. Gal 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. God bless "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”" - Galatians 5:14 "Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith..." - 1 Timothy 1:5 Because if walk in love we will not fulfill the lust of the flesh: "I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh." - Galatians 5:16 "For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh" - Romans 8:3 But is this possible?! "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." - Matthew 19:26 "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin... ...Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed." - John 8:34+36 Edited June 2, 2018 by 4LdKHVCzRDj2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted June 2, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, Yowm said: False prophets, false teachers, that was not my point..."I asked for you to show me from scripture 'prophets in the spiritual sense'. I'm still waiting. " Well, both I guess. 2 Peter 2:1 and this entire chapter is referring to nonbelievers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted June 2, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, 4LdKHVCzRDj2 said: "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”" - Galatians 5:14 James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 1 Jhn 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4LdKHVCzRDj2 Posted June 2, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 17 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,453 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 1,453 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/02/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1991 Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Heb 13:8 said: James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 1 Jhn 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. Where did I say I was without sin?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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