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God having anything-part or parcel with sin is blasphemous!


enoob57

Sovereignty of God means God willed sin to be a simple yes / no  

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I was just curios how many believe because God is Sovereign that sin is here by His Will?


The God of Scriptures speaks profoundly about His nature of holiness:

Ps 93:5
5 Thy testimonies are very sure: holiness becometh thine house, O LORD, for ever.
KJV

To place sin in the creative act of God or bear witness that God has ordained it to be is, according to the verse above, calling sin the holiness within God's house...

The simple construct of God's nature is holiness:

Isa 6:1-4
6 In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and the train of His robe filled the temple. 2 Above it stood seraphim; each one had six wings: with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. 3 And one cried to another and said:

"Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts;
The whole earth is full of His glory!" 

4 And the posts of the door were shaken by the voice of him who cried out, and the house was filled with smoke. 
NKJV
Rev 15:4
4 Who shall not fear You, O Lord, and glorify Your name?
For You alone are holy.
For all nations shall come and worship before You,
For Your judgments have been manifested." 
NKJV



The necessity to maintain a pure and clean heart to have fellowship with God speaks to us all the total aspect of * God  |   sin  * …and the two cannot have the same source or the necessity to deny the Scriptures that says such:

James 3:11-12

11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?

12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
KJV

It is by this very example of creation (above) that we join this (below)

Rom 1:20

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
KJV



 

 

 

 

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God is not party to sin, in any fashion or form.  He is 100% sinless.  He has nothing to do with sin.

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I believe God allowed sin to exist and shall be long suffering towards it for a time.. Until His eternal plan has been achieved..

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On ‎6‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 9:47 AM, Adstar said:

I believe God allowed sin to exist and shall be long suffering towards it for a time.. Until His eternal plan has been achieved..

Do you believe sin is of a created essence?

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1 hour ago, enoob57 said:

Do you believe sin is of a created essence?

I do not know what you mean with the term ""of a created essence"" enoob57 ?

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The first Adam was once perfect but became sin. Did God have anything to do with the first man after Adam's sin?  Even in His righteous wrath, did God not introduce death  to Adam (and mankind) along with sin's price, by "personally" killing a living creature tearing it's flesh apart, skinning it to make a temporary symbol of the necessary covering up of sin? Did not God who is perfect and cannot abide that which is imperfect become man Himself to take on the price of sin and pay that price so that some that are sinful as all are may be saved from the consequence of sin?

I suggest that God neither created sin, nor did He "just" allow it. He captured it, has killed it, denied it it's victory, and conquered it, so that many might be with Him  eternally. God reconciled what is unreconcilable for He is God. His will is supreme over all, He is sovereign. 

 I suggest that the capacity for sin against God is inherent in any being that gains awareness of sin. God created beings that could gain that capacity if God created the tree of knowledge of good and evil. I take that to be a literal presentation that there is a tree whose fruit enabled awareness of good and evil and that it was in Eden, and is not merely a symbolism and allegorical tale.

God created beings that are not merely robotic though He is sovereign over all things. He can both create beings capable of disobedience and demand obedience too, all without abiding sin. Plus God can and hs provided escape from sin. He has done so personally in the willing sacrifice made by Jesus shedding His own blood to pay the price of sin in all that believe on Him as God, Lord and savior.

 

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52 minutes ago, Adstar said:

I do not know what you mean with the term ""of a created essence"" enoob57 ?

a part of God's Creation acts.

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1 minute ago, enoob57 said:

a part of God's Creation acts.

I believe sin came into existence when satan decided he wanted to be as God..  This happened after creation i believe.. It was an option that God allowed..  Allowing something is not the same as creating something..

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That is why sin has no part with God and God is unbounded in reality...

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7 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

That is why sin has no part with God and it is unbounded in reality...

Is there sin in innocence? Did God create the capacity for man to lose innocence when he created a tree of knowledge of good and evil? Did God just allow sin? Or did God who foreknew and predestined many to overcome sin by way of His Son Jesus and His sacrifice create both death as well as  victory  over death so that many may be with Him eternally- and not be robotics, but creatures of His love that God may dwell among and they with Him in love of Him?

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