Heb 13:8 Posted June 21, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2018 Is 1 Thess 5:1 telling us that we do not need scripture, youtube or the internet to know when the Day of the Lord comes. graphó: to write Original Word: γράφω Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: graphó Phonetic Spelling: (graf'-o) Short Definition: I write Definition: I write; pass: it is written, it stands written (in the scriptures). The Day of the Lord 1Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write (graphó) to you, 2for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 4But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. 6So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be awake and sober. 7For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. 8But since we belong to the day, let us be sober, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet. 9For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. 10He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him. 11Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing. This should be in prophecy section. - Heb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted June 21, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, Da Puppers said: Those who don't recognize the signs, BY WATCHING, will be in danger of being left behind, because they made themselves not ready. No, partial rapture is false. The "oil" in Matt 25 is describing the indwelling Holy Spirit which never leaves a believer in Christ. I don't think God will punish those who chose not to have youtube or the internet, for these are man made things. - Heb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted June 22, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 So how would the thessalonican's not be surprised like a thief without believers on the internet warning them? Can believers in 2018 just know when that day comes without the internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted June 22, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 Let's try to stay on topic. 1 Thess 5:4 says they will not be surprised like a thief. For example, what if Joe Bob who is a believer in Christ lives in the mountains and chooses not to have internet or tv. Not only that, but he no longer has any friends or family who are believers. The only thing he clings too is his Bible and his faith. Will Joe Bob be surprised like a thief because he didn't watch the right youtube video on the rapture or he didn't read the right article in a Christian magazine. Because according to 1 Thess 5:1, 4, believers do not need scripture, times and seasons told to them when that day comes (the Day of the Lord). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted June 22, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Da Puppers said: Your implication seems to be that there is no need to watch. *[[1Th 5:6]] KJV* Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. To watch is to pay attention to what is going on around you. And if you are watching for events, then that musty mean that there is something to be watching for. And if there is something to be watching for, (as a Christian) then that means it is found in God's word. To be sober means to bee keenly aware of your surroundings. The implication is to be in a watchful attitude, but not necessarily naming the specifics. As I have already said, that is found within the command to watch. But i get the impression that you think that watching is inconsequential (being without any consequences) and unnecessary. Blessings The PuP Wouldn't all the bad news in the world desensitize us though? Matt 6:22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted June 22, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Da Puppers said: Do you believe that God is in control of every situation? The PuP Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted June 23, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted June 23, 2018 "We can know THE TIMES & SEASON of his coming, but not the day or hour" No you can't .... the Lord will move when He is ready No one knows His time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted June 23, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,040 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 546 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 23, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 4:37 PM, Heb 13:8 said: Is 1 Thess 5:1 telling us that we do not need scripture, youtube or the internet to know when the Day of the Lord comes. graphó: to write Original Word: γράφω Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: graphó Phonetic Spelling: (graf'-o) Short Definition: I write Definition: I write; pass: it is written, it stands written (in the scriptures). The Day of the Lord 1Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write (graphó) to you, 2for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 4But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. 6So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be awake and sober. 7For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. 8But since we belong to the day, let us be sober, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet. 9For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. 10He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him. 11Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing. This should be in prophecy section. - Heb Notice.......while PEOPLE say peace & safety destruction will come upon THEM as in THEM in the Dark. Those on the Light are thus not subject unto this Wrath, because of course they have already been Raptured to the Marriage in Heaven, thus VERSE 4 says you are not in the darkness that this day will fall upon you. We belong to the LIGHT (Jesus) not the DARK (Satan). Its really that simple. On 6/21/2018 at 6:13 PM, Heb 13:8 said: No, partial rapture is false. The "oil" in Matt 25 is describing the indwelling Holy Spirit which never leaves a believer in Christ. I don't think God will punish those who chose not to have youtube or the internet, for these are man made things. - Heb All Believers are TAKEN at the time of the Rapture...........after the DOOR TO THE MARRIAGE IS SHUT, others will come unto the Faith, the 144,000 which s not really 144,000 it is AL ISRAEL or the 1/3 of the Jews that Repent, and the REMNANT CHURCH of Rev. 12:17, who are the Martyrs under the Alter seen at the 5th Seal. So ALL were taken and OTHERS WERE ADDED LATER, Christ will tun no one away, BUT.........There are Consequences, they are shut out of the Marriage, they are give their White Robes and told they must wait until their fellow brothers have been killed as they were. (The Beast reigns for 42 Months) On 6/21/2018 at 8:32 PM, Heb 13:8 said: So how would the thessalonican's not be surprised like a thief without believers on the internet warning them? Can believers in 2018 just know when that day comes without the internet? It says YOU WILL NOT BE SURPRISED, hence you (BELIEVERS) will not be here [because you are not children of the DARK] !! That is all that it means, the children of the LIGHT will go to be with Jesus BEFORE the Day of the Lords Wrath hits the earth. On 6/21/2018 at 11:41 PM, Heb 13:8 said: 1 Thess 5:4 says they will not be surprised like a thief. For example, what if Joe Bob who is a believer in Christ lives in the mountains and chooses not to have internet or tv. Not only that, but he no longer has any friends or family who are believers. The only thing he clings too is his Bible and his faith. Will Joe Bob be surprised like a thief because he didn't watch the right youtube video on the rapture or he didn't read the right article in a Christian magazine. Because according to 1 Thess 5:1, 4, believers do not need scripture, times and seasons told to them when that day comes (the Day of the Lord). Your understanding seems to not rely on the Pre Tribulation Rapture, thus nothing fits properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted June 23, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Revelation Man said: who are the Martyrs under the Alter seen at the 5th Seal. I really don't like talking about the timing of the seals. God bless RM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted June 28, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,040 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 546 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 28, 2018 On 6/23/2018 at 2:41 PM, Heb 13:8 said: I really don't like talking about the timing of the seals. God bless RM. Well they gave an "APPOINTED TIME" just like all of Gods plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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