“The Passion Translation”: You Are Jesus Christ’s Equal

[Acadia]

Just now, Davida said:

It is so pathetic, why can they not see??  this unify theme is diabolical, they forget Jesus said he came to bring the sword, to divide- not unite the world. 

I don’t know, but I have tried to lovingly discuss this with them. They view my faith as small. After all, they are the ones who have actually done a DTS, not me. They have seen God move in ways they can’t explain. So, I’ve been told, I just want a “comfortable faith that won’t rock the boat.”

And this is how the NAR leaders train their followers to respond to any concerns caring family and friends bring up.

[Acadia]

3 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

Bible gateway has a copy of his translation of the bible. So I snooped around it for a bit. 

Chapter 4 of song of solomon doesnt resemble his version of the song of songs. 

KJV

4 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes within thy locks: thy hair is as a flock of goats, that appear from mount Gilead.

2 Thy teeth are like a flock of sheep that are even shorn, which came up from the washing; whereof every one bear twins, and none is barren among them.

3 Thy lips are like a thread of scarlet, and thy speech is comely: thy temples are like a piece of a pomegranate within thy locks.

4 Thy neck is like the tower of David builded for an armoury, whereon there hang a thousand bucklers, all shields of mighty men.

5 Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies.

6 Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, I will get me to the mountain of myrrh, and to the hill of frankincense.

7 Thou art all fair, my love; there is no spot in thee.

8 Come with me from Lebanon, my spouse, with me from Lebanon: look from the top of Amana, from the top of Shenir and Hermon, from the lions' dens, from the mountains of the leopards.

9 Thou hast ravished my heart, my sister, my spouse; thou hast ravished my heart with one of thine eyes, with one chain of thy neck.

10 How fair is thy love, my sister, my spouse! how much better is thy love than wine! and the smell of thine ointments than all spices!

11 Thy lips, O my spouse, drop as the honeycomb: honey and milk are under thy tongue; and the smell of thy garments is like the smell of Lebanon.

12 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.

13 Thy plants are an orchard of pomegranates, with pleasant fruits; camphire, with spikenard,

14 Spikenard and saffron; calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense; myrrh and aloes, with all the chief spices:

15 A fountain of gardens, a well of living waters, and streams from Lebanon.

16 Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits.
 

The passion translation (differences bolded and red)

 

Song of Songs 4 The Passion Translation (TPT)

The Bridegroom-King
4 Listen, my dearest darling,
    you are so beautiful—you are beauty itself to me!
    Your eyes glisten with love,
    like gentle doves behind your veil.
    What devotion I see each time I gaze upon you.
    You are like a sacrifice ready to be offered.[a]
2 When I look at you,
    I see how you have taken my fruit and tasted my word.
    Your life has become clean and pure,
    like a lamb washed and newly shorn.
    You now show grace and balance with truth on display.
3 Your lips are as lovely as Rahab’s scarlet ribbon,
    speaking mercy, speaking grace.
    The words of your mouth are as refreshing as an oasis.
    What pleasure you bring to me!
    I see your blushing cheeks
    opened like the halves of a pomegranate,[c]
    showing through your veil of tender meekness.
4 When I look at you,
    I see your inner strength, so stately and strong.
    You are as secure as David’s fortress.
    Your virtues and grace cause a thousand famous soldiers
    to surrender to your beauty.
5 Your pure faith and love rest over your heart
    as you nurture those who are yet infants.

The Shulamite
6 I’ve made up my mind.
    Until the darkness disappears and the dawn has fully come,
    in spite of shadows and fears,
    I will go to the mountaintop with you—
    the mountain of suffering love[d]
    and the hill of burning incense.
    Yes, I will be your bride.[e]

The Bridegroom-King
7 Every part of you is so beautiful, my darling.
    Perfect is your beauty, without flaw within.
8 Now you are ready, my bride,
    to come with me as we climb the highest peaks together.
    Come with me through the archway of trust.[f]
    We will look down[g]
    from the crest of the glistening mounts
    and from the summit of our sublime sanctuary.
    Together we will wage war
    in the lion’s den and the leopard’s lair
    as they watch nightly for their prey.
9 For you reach into my heart.
    With one flash of your eyes I am undone by your love,
    my beloved, my equal, my bride.
    You leave me breathless—
    I am overcome
    by merely a glance from your worshiping eyes,
    for you have stolen my heart.[h]
    I am held hostage by your love
    and by the graces of righteousness shining upon you.
10 How satisfying to me, my equal, my bride.
    Your love is my finest wine—intoxicating and thrilling.
    And your sweet, perfumed praises—so exotic, so pleasing.
11 Your loving words are like the honeycomb to me;
    your tongue releases milk and honey,
    for I find the Promised Land flowing within you.[j]
    The fragrance of your worshiping love
    surrounds you with scented robes of white.[k]
12 My darling bride, my private paradise,
    fastened to my heart.
    A secret spring are you that no one else can have—
    my bubbling fountain hidden from public view.
    What a perfect partner to me now that I have you.
13–14 Your inward life is now sprouting, bringing forth fruit.
    What a beautiful paradise unfolds within you.[l]
    When I’m near you, I smell aromas of the finest spice,
    for many clusters of my exquisite fruit
    now grow within your inner garden.
    Here are the nine:
    pomegranates of passion,[m]
    henna from heaven,[n]
    spikenard so sweet,[o]
    saffron shining,[p]
    fragrant calamus from the cross,[q]
    sacred cinnamon,[r]
    branches of scented woods,
    myrrh, like tears from a tree,[t]
    and aloe as eagles ascending.
15 Your life flows into mine, pure as a garden spring.
    A well of living water springs up from within you,
    like a mountain brook flowing into my heart![v]

The Shulamite Bride
4:16–5:1  Then may your awakening breath
    blow upon my life until I am fully yours.
    Breathe upon me with your Spirit wind.
    Stir up the sweet spice of your life within me.
    Spare nothing as you make me your fruitful garden.
    Hold nothing back until I release your fragrance.
    Come walk with me as you walked
    with Adam in your paradise garden.[w]
    Come taste the fruits of your life in me.

The Bridegroom-King
I have come to you, my darling bride,
    for you are my paradise garden!

The Shulamite Bride
Come walk with me until I am fully yours.
    Come taste the fruits of your life in me.
 

Yes. Exactly. Yet, this “translation” is indeed becoming more and more popular.

[ayin jade]

6 minutes ago, Acadia said:

I don’t know, but I have tried to lovingly discuss this with them. They view my faith as small. After all, they are the ones who have actually done a DTS, not me. They have seen God move in ways they can’t explain. So, I’ve been told, I just want a “comfortable faith that won’t rock the boat.”

And this is how the NAR leaders train their followers to respond to any concerns caring family and friends bring up.

Ok I cant figure out the initials. What is nar and what is dts?

[Acadia]

Just now, ayin jade said:

Ok I cant figure out the initials. What is nar and what is dts?

Sorry,

NAR stands for New Apostolic Reformation. Basically this is a broad and loosely organized movement made up of leaders who consider themselves to be modern day “prophets” and “apostles.” They don’t necessarily even use this title themselves, though it originated with C. Peter Wagner (who has since passed away) and was himself considered a prophet/apostle, and was one of the main leaders of this movement. 

I’ve done a lot of research into the New Apostolic Reformation, its influences have spread like wildfire in the Church.

DTS stands for Discipleship Training School. 

[Acadia]

Just now, Davida said:

They have seen teleportation & the magic tricks of the devil, the demons make feathers appear and gold dust etc....May GOD give you boldness & the correct scriptural words to say to them. 

Yes. I keep them in my prayers. They don’t really wish to talk with me about this anymore and have told me not to bother sending them any more information, but if they are ever willing to discuss it, they know they can talk with me.

And I do thank God for always leading and guiding me, because I know I am no better than anyone else.

[Acadia]

1 minute ago, Davida said:

Not only are we not- better - we are the Least, the Foolish, the Weak, the Despised-  LOL!  so none can boast.  

1 COR 1:27 " 27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28 He chose the lowly and despised things of the world, and the things that are not, to nullify the things that are,…

I absolutely agree. God truly does know I am not the smartest or best person.

[ayin jade]

3 minutes ago, Yowm said:

A quick youtube view of Brian Simmons interview on Sid Roth (another quack) shows this guy is out in left field along the lines of Joseph Smith or Mohammed.

I can’t believe Christian bookstores are selling this. $$$Where’s the accountability?

Christian bookstores are the same as any other store. In the business of making money. Not in the business of figuring out what is solid and only selling that. I figured that out long long ago when I wanted some solid commentaries and instead in all the different Christian bookstores here could only find motivational books by osteen, meyers etc. 

[Hidden In Him]

1 hour ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

I had another dream .   I will tell it to you later .   

1 hour ago, Yowm said:

It appears you are dead wrong. Their site themselves call it a TRANSLATION. Please use discernment In these matter or you end up abetting their deception.

LoL. It doesn't matter what anyone calls it! Ha! Any translator worth his salt knows a translation from a paraphrase. Just because they call it a "translation" doesn't actually make it one, Yowm.

  

[Hidden In Him]

Just now, Yowm said:

 

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What sort of response was that?

[Hidden In Him]

Just now, Yowm said:

My point was that it calls itself a translation. Which is deceptive.

And that was precisely my point. So why do you have discernment yet somehow I do not?