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There are many interesting and doctrinally/theologically accurate  means to understand/comprehend  Salvation.  As the born again's  eternal position in God's family , whereby we are eternally  joined to God our Father through the Blood of Jesus, can be understood on many levels as an amazing spiritual mosaic regarding redemption..

Salvation....The Atonement....is multi-facited , it has many intricate and  connected dots.....

1.) One way you can "see it", is to realize that God took upon Himself the sacrificial responsibility of our redemption,  by  Himself literally dying on a cross to  bridge and thereby remove the eternal gulf that was between Himself and us that was our "SIN"..

2.) Another was you can view it is to understand that God's literal holiness is SO Holy, that it does not allow anything that is not equal in holiness to exist around Him..... So, He literally solves our unholiness that was the eternal wall between us and Himself,  by  dying for us and thereby GIFTING us with the "Righteousness of God, In Christ".....which is literally God's very own holiness becoming ours when we are born again.  "the gift of righteousness"..

3.) And one more way to contemplate God's unmerited Salvation that He has gifted us  with  if we are born again, is  Ephesians 2..... "God through Christ has raised us up together (Jesus and you) (Jesus is the resurrection and the Eternal Life), and made us 3 sit together.....(God, Christ, and the Born Again), > " IN Christ Jesus".      Jesus The Christ IS God, and We the born again are "in Christ", (In God)  and "Christ (God) in us IS the eternal and literal hope of Heaven, Eternal Life, & Glory".

And how is this understood best?.....  John 17:23.... "Jesus is inside the born Again, and God is inside Jesus,  SO THAT the born again are ALL made perfect,  as are all ONE in God....""""

 

 

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On 6/24/2018 at 6:32 PM, Yowm said:

Another way is seeing the atonement as a rescue..a rescue from the demands of the law, the flesh, the devil and sin's power.

 

Absolutely.

Salvation is a rescue.

From Hell.

From Self

From the World.

So many things........and its all FREE.

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