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On 6/30/2018 at 7:17 PM, Philadelphianlady said:

The bodies of the dead raise at that time and put on immortality. But the spirits of the dead in Christ return with Him. The alive do not come back with Him.

Many don't understand the resurrection ,will add that only those in Christ put on immortality,

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On 7/13/2018 at 1:10 PM, Sojourner414 said:

If the rapture happens at the second coming, then all who are there would be taken, per 1 Thessalonians.

As for your 2 quotes: Zech. 14 is talking about the Jews fleeing via the split in the mountain, while Ezekiel 39 is talking about the aftermath of the Psalm 83 war, not Armageddon. Keep in mind that the birds of the air have been invited to dine on the bodies at Armageddon, so trying to shoe-horn Ezekiel 39 into the Second Coming is pretty useless.

That's the problem IMO,is the only way you can get a simlance of rapture is to separate the Jews from the Church

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On 7/13/2018 at 5:05 PM, Daniel 11:36 said:

Absurd comment by PH Lady .... both the dead in Christ and the living at the time will be caught up together to meet the Lord in the air

You are playing games with scripture

Not absurd

At death all return to God,at His coming those who have died in Him(sleep)comes back with Him.

That's why the living can't precede the dead...Only way to believe in a rapture is to believe in soul sleep

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On 7/14/2018 at 12:00 AM, Daniel 11:36 said:

You are the "ROLFER" for sure lady .... I can see this with just a glance at what you are telling about the dead in Christ and those living at the time

Come back when you dump your post tribulation rant and then we can talk about things

Again,the dead are already with Christ,

 

Where do you think Daniel Mosses John Peter Mark Paul and the rest are right now?Until you realize that the flesh WILL not rise,you won't get it!!!

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On 7/14/2018 at 3:38 AM, Michael37 said:

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I like this simple summary by the late Chuck Missler apart from the pretrib leaning which doesn't tie in with Revelation 13, but lets not be dogmatic at this stage.

There are only TWO advents of Christ in all of scripture,period

Not 3

How many brides does Christ have?

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1 hour ago, n2thelight said:

There are only TWO advents of Christ in all of scripture,period

Not 3

How many brides does Christ have?

I see only one bride. What you lookin' at?

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3 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

I see only one bride. What you lookin' at?

I see one as well,that's my point

If the Church is the Bride and God will re-marry Israel something aint right,meaning the Church and Israel can't be separated...

The Church has always been Israel,

Only way to come up with a rapture among alot of other things is to separate the two

 

Example,Christ in Matt 24 with out a doubt says He returns after the trib,yet pretribers claim He was speaking to the Jew's

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Revelation is seven separate letters. These documents repeat information as they overlap. This confuses many scholars. Both the rapture event and the 3 1/2 years are referred to in separate story lines. This gives the illusion of two different events when the book is viewed as a continuous narrative. Book divisions by chapter 3-3-3-4-3-3-3.

 

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