n2thelight Posted October 2, 2018 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 2, 2018 On 6/30/2018 at 7:17 PM, Philadelphianlady said: The bodies of the dead raise at that time and put on immortality. But the spirits of the dead in Christ return with Him. The alive do not come back with Him. Many don't understand the resurrection ,will add that only those in Christ put on immortality, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted October 2, 2018 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 2, 2018 On 7/13/2018 at 1:10 PM, Sojourner414 said: If the rapture happens at the second coming, then all who are there would be taken, per 1 Thessalonians. As for your 2 quotes: Zech. 14 is talking about the Jews fleeing via the split in the mountain, while Ezekiel 39 is talking about the aftermath of the Psalm 83 war, not Armageddon. Keep in mind that the birds of the air have been invited to dine on the bodies at Armageddon, so trying to shoe-horn Ezekiel 39 into the Second Coming is pretty useless. That's the problem IMO,is the only way you can get a simlance of rapture is to separate the Jews from the Church Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted October 2, 2018 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 2, 2018 On 7/13/2018 at 5:05 PM, Daniel 11:36 said: Absurd comment by PH Lady .... both the dead in Christ and the living at the time will be caught up together to meet the Lord in the air You are playing games with scripture Not absurd At death all return to God,at His coming those who have died in Him(sleep)comes back with Him. That's why the living can't precede the dead...Only way to believe in a rapture is to believe in soul sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted October 2, 2018 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 2, 2018 On 7/14/2018 at 12:00 AM, Daniel 11:36 said: You are the "ROLFER" for sure lady .... I can see this with just a glance at what you are telling about the dead in Christ and those living at the time Come back when you dump your post tribulation rant and then we can talk about things Again,the dead are already with Christ, Where do you think Daniel Mosses John Peter Mark Paul and the rest are right now?Until you realize that the flesh WILL not rise,you won't get it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted October 2, 2018 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 2, 2018 On 7/14/2018 at 3:38 AM, Michael37 said: I like this simple summary by the late Chuck Missler apart from the pretrib leaning which doesn't tie in with Revelation 13, but lets not be dogmatic at this stage. There are only TWO advents of Christ in all of scripture,period Not 3 How many brides does Christ have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted October 2, 2018 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 237 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,773 Content Per Day: 3.24 Reputation: 4,724 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, n2thelight said: There are only TWO advents of Christ in all of scripture,period Not 3 How many brides does Christ have? I see only one bride. What you lookin' at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted October 2, 2018 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Michael37 said: I see only one bride. What you lookin' at? I see one as well,that's my point If the Church is the Bride and God will re-marry Israel something aint right,meaning the Church and Israel can't be separated... The Church has always been Israel, Only way to come up with a rapture among alot of other things is to separate the two Example,Christ in Matt 24 with out a doubt says He returns after the trib,yet pretribers claim He was speaking to the Jew's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Free Posted October 2, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,265 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 286 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Revelation is seven separate letters. These documents repeat information as they overlap. This confuses many scholars. Both the rapture event and the 3 1/2 years are referred to in separate story lines. This gives the illusion of two different events when the book is viewed as a continuous narrative. Book divisions by chapter 3-3-3-4-3-3-3. Edited October 2, 2018 by Scott Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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