arachnogeek Posted July 10, 2018 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 100 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 29 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/11/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Still Alive said: Jesus is fully man and fully God. The one was, in fact, created. The latter, who dwells within the other, is God. That's why he has an earthly mother but not an earthly father. You're not actually suggesting that Jesus was created....are you? Do you believe Christ has coexisted with the Father and the Spirit in eternity past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted July 10, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sojourner414 said: There is nothing "foolish" about asserting the authenticity of the Bible as all the word of God. I meant that continuing the argument was, in my opinion, foolish for me to do. I've been debating religious and political topics on the internet since 1997 and face to face for quite a while before that. There comes a time in a debate/discussion where I see it as foolish for me, at least, to continue. Both sides have made their cases and there is really nothing more to say. Also, sometimes I feel that people are misunderstanding me and I can't seem to get them to see what I'm trying to say. This is why I sometimes just give links that explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted July 10, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, Sojourner414 said: They may, but the only opinion that matters at the end of the day is God's. I can't argue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted July 10, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, arachnogeek said: You're not actually suggesting that Jesus was created....are you? Do you believe Christ has coexisted with the Father and the Spirit in eternity past? You're getting into the weeds here. I believe Jesus walked with Adam. I believe that Jesus dislocated Jacob's hip. I believe that Jesus was in the furnace with the three Jewish boys. I believe Jesus' body was "created" out of God and Mary's egg. I believe that Jesus is in "eternity", which is outside of our linear time line, and he can enter it whenever he sees fit. e.g. with Adam, with Jacob, etc. I might be full of baloney, but that's what I believe is most likely true. My salvation doesn't depend on it, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Still Alive said: I meant that continuing the argument was, in my opinion, foolish for me to do. No, that isn't what you meant and the Scriptures you posted contradict you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted July 10, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: No, that is not the part where any of us differ with you. No one is claiming that translations are inspired. That demonstrates your utter inability to correctly frame the issue. Opinions vary, but I'm seeing a hint of irony in that post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Still Alive said: You're getting into the weeds here. I believe Jesus walked with Adam. I believe that Jesus dislocated Jacob's hip. I believe that Jesus was in the furnace with the three Jewish boys. I believe Jesus' body was "created" out of God and Mary's egg. I believe that Jesus is in "eternity", which is outside of our linear time line, and he can enter it whenever he sees fit. e.g. with Adam, with Jacob, etc. I might be full of baloney, but that's what I believe is most likely true. My salvation doesn't depend on it, of course. Having correct theology isn't simply about what is necessary for salvation. It is about having a coherent, rational theology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, Still Alive said: Opinions vary, but I'm seeing a hint of irony in that post. There is no irony at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted July 10, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, shiloh357 said: No, that isn't what you meant and the Scriptures you posted contradict you. Do you discuss from this, um, attitude when you talk to people face to face? Just curious. It is clear that my posts are frustrating you. It's one reason I chose to stop. I'm not trying to get on people's nerves. I was just trying to have an "iron sharpening iron" discussion. But I'm also trying to be civil. It's pretty easy for me, though. Maybe it's because I'm old and I've been through this stuff a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted July 10, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Having correct theology isn't simply about what is necessary for salvation. It is about having a coherent, rational theology. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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