Son of Perdition

[Ed J]

Hi Everyone,

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day  (the day of Christ) shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;" (2 Thess 2:3)

This thread is about revealing exactly who the son of perdition is.

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God bless

Ed J

[Michael37]

2 hours ago, Ed J said:

Hi Everyone,

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day  (the day of Christ) shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;" (2 Thess 2:3)

This thread is about revealing exactly who the son of perdition is.

____________
God bless

Ed J

Hi Ed J, Do you have some verifiable info on this? There has been a lot of speculation since Paul wrote to the Thessalonians from Corinth between 50 & 55AD. His letter reminds them they were told what was withholding the climax. The climax is still withheld. The letter also references a restrainer who will restrain until he is taken out of the way. The restrainer is still restraining the rise of the natural wickedness of mankind to its zenith when a man of wicked nature, described as "that Wicked", will acheive total temporal tyranny with extreme executive enforcement under complete corporate control. (I went for alliteration when summarising Revelation 13)

[n2thelight]

9 hours ago, Ed J said:

Hi Everyone,

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day  (the day of Christ) shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;" (2 Thess 2:3)

This thread is about revealing exactly who the son of perdition is.

____________
God bless

Ed J

Only satan can be and is the son of perdition

 

[Michael37]

1 hour ago, n2thelight said:

Only satan can be and is the son of perdition

 

The term "son of perdition" is used first in John 17:12 where it refers to Judas.

John 17:12
(12)  While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

Acts 1:16-20
(16)  Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.
(17)  For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.
(18)  Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
(19)  And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.
(20)  For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

[n2thelight]

10 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

The term "son of perdition" is used first in John 17:12 where it refers to Judas.

John 17:12
(12)  While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

Acts 1:16-20
(16)  Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.
(17)  For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.
(18)  Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
(19)  And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.
(20)  For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

satan is the only entity by name already sentenced to death,which is what perdition means

Strong's Greek Lexicon Search Results

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Result of search for "perdition": 684. apoleia ap-o'-li-a from a presumed derivative of 622; ruin or loss (physical, spiritual or eternal):--damnable(-nation), destruction, die, perdition, X perish, pernicious ways, waste.

[enoob57]

Satan and his followers are identified by inability to repent... and when in error repentance is required to be delivered from oneself …

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REPENTANCE (Guilt, Regret, Sorrow)

Why is repentance essential to a spiritual life?

BIBLE READING: Luke 3:1-18

KEY BIBLE VERSE: Here is a sample of John's preaching to the crowds that came for baptism: "You brood of snakes! Who warned you to flee God's coming judgment? Prove by the way you live that you have really turned from your sins and turned to God. Don't just say, 'We're safe — we're the descendants of Abraham.' That proves nothing. God can change these stones here into children of Abraham." (Luke 3:7-8)

Repentance opens the way for relationship with God. Repentance has two sides — turning away from sins and turning toward God. To be truly repentant, we must do both. We can't just say that we believe and then live any way we choose; neither can we simply live a morally correct life without a personal relationship with God, because that cannot bring forgiveness from sin. Determine to rid your life of any sins God points out, and put your trust in him alone to guide you.

Repentance demonstrates real faith. Confession of sins and a changed life are inseparable. Faith without deeds is dead (James 2:14-26). Jesus' harshest words were to the respectable religious leaders who lacked the desire for real change. They wanted to be known as religious authorities, but they didn't want to change their hearts and minds. Thus their lives were unproductive. Repentance must be tied to action, or it isn't real. Following Jesus means more than saying the right words; it means acting on what he says.

BIBLE READING: Matt 3:1-12

KEY BIBLE VERSE: In those days John the Baptist began preaching in the Judean wilderness. His message was, "Turn from your sins and turn to God, because the Kingdom of Heaven is near." (Matt 3:1-2)

Repentance makes inward change a visible reality. When you wash dirty hands, the results are immediately visible. But repentance happens inside with a cleansing that isn't seen right away. So John used a symbolic action that people could see: baptism. The Jews used baptism to initiate converts, so John's audience was familiar with the rite. Here, baptism was used as a sign of repentance and forgiveness. Repent means "to turn," implying a change in behavior. It is turning from sin toward God. Have you repented of sin in your life? Can others see the difference it makes in you? A changed life with new and different behavior makes your repentance real and visible.

BIBLE READING: John 12:1-11
(from The Handbook of Bible Application copyright © 1992 by Neil Wilson. English edition © 2002 by Biblesoft with permission of Tyndale House Publishers, Inc. All rights reserved.)
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[Riccardo]

On 7/19/2018 at 2:46 PM, Michael37 said:

The term "son of perdition" is used first in John 17:12 where it refers to Judas

yes you are right & in both cases doesn't refer to Satin personally, but is from an insider in the group of Christian believers.