September 23, 2017

[iamlamad]

8 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

iam, yes you are talking about entering through works if you're adding hell to your doctrine. what you're saying is Jesus + forgiving others = keeping your salvation secure. If you don't forgive Tuesday and you die Thursday you're going to hell. That's false. In reality, Jesus paid the sin penalty for past, present, future sins, including not forgiving on Tuesday. ?

It's a silly doctrine because you pick out certain sins that qualify for loss of salvation like unforgiveness. What about the 100 other sins you commit in your thoughts and actions every day. Are those included too? You would have to repent every minute of every day. You're right, you can't CON God. God knows who are truly born again and who are the religious. Jesus + 0 = salvation. God bless.

You are mistaken! "I" didn't do anything but pasted SCRIPTURE. The problem is, you don't like those scriptures. 

And if you are a believer (born again) and don't want to forgive, you are in grave danger! 

The truth is, becoming or getting born again is very easy. God made it very easy.  LIVING for God and following His commandments (Yes, there ARE New Testament commandments - like loving our brothers and sisters which includes forgiving them) is more difficult! 

It is true: Christ died for all sins, past, present, and future - and for all people. But then, all people don't make it to heaven, do they?  God requires something of a human to ACTIVATE that sin covering.  Sinners won't go to hell for their particular sins - for as you said, those sins were put upon Jesus and He paid the price.  Sinners will go to hell because they rejected Jesus Christ as their savior!  

However, once someone has by faith entered into the door and became born again, and continue on with sins, the Holy Spirit will convict. The more a believer sins, the more the Holy Spirit will convict.  The problem is, some people imagine that is only their conscience and keep right on.  If they are a a mature Christian, as Hebrews 6 outlines, and they persist in sin, they are trying to "con" God!  What did John write? That if someone hates his brother but says he is a believer, he is a LIAR! I did not write that, John did.  IF someone is trying to love God, whom they cannot see, and hate a brother or sister that they CAN see, God says they CANNOT love Him. 

Stop and think: I mean it: stop and think about this: if a believer's sins (future) are buried in the sea of God's forgetfulness, removed as far as East is from the West, please explain why God said that if we don't forgive, then HE won't forgive. How can he know unforgiveness exists if it is removed as far as East is from the West?  The truth is, these two ideas are mutually exclusive! God HAS to know someone is unforgiving, meaning that sin is NOT under the blood. Therefore, FUTURE sins are not automatically "under the blood." 

The truth then is - if a believer persists in unforgiveness, they are on dangerous ground. God is not forgiving THEM.  I did not write it HE did. 

[Last Daze]

20 hours ago, other one said:

I think it is dangerous to tell people that works doesn't save you in any way that suggests that one does not have to have any works at all and still get to heaven..

If one professes Jesus as Lord but does not do the things Jesus told us which some consider works, they have simply made themselves liars instead of followers and condemned themselves.

Very true.  This parable sums it up nicely.

• And He began telling this parable: “A man had a fig tree which had been planted in his vineyard; and he came looking for fruit on it and did not find any.  And he said to the vineyard-keeper, ‘Behold, for three years I have come looking for fruit on this fig tree without finding any. Cut it down! Why does it even use up the ground?’  And he answered and said to him, ‘Let it alone, sir, for this year too, until I dig around it and put in fertilizer; and if it bears fruit next year, fine; but if not, cut it down.’”  Luke 13:6-9

Which is stated more succinctly here:

• Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.  Matthew 7:19

[Heb 13:8]

8 hours ago, iamlamad said:

Therefore, FUTURE sins are not automatically "under the blood." 

Yes they are. You still don't get it. It hasn't "clicked" yet for you. People send themselves to hell by unbelief in the death, burial and resurrection, and you wonder why they call it easy believism? It's not so easy to believe is it?

It's the power of God that keeps us saved, not anything we do. Pride keeps the focus on us, humility keeps the focus on God.

1 Cor 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

[iamlamad]

Just now, Heb 13:8 said:

Yes they are. You still don't get it. It hasn't "clicked" yet for you. People send themselves to hell by unbelief in the death, burial and resurrection, and you wonder why they call it easy believism? It's not so easy to believe is it?

It's the power of God that keeps us saved, not anything we do. Pride keeps the focus on us, humility keeps the focus on God.

1 Cor 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

If you imagine you can sin and get away with it, fine. there is no need to continue our disagreement. As I have said, no one can con God and get away with it. We will reap exactly what we sow.  If you imagine you can sow unforgiveness and reap forgiveness, good luck!  I only hope, when you sin, you RUN to 1 John 1:9 and repent quickly! And I hope, when you stand praying, your forgive! It is really not difficult!

[iamlamad]

7 hours ago, Last Daze said:

Very true.  This parable sums it up nicely.

• And He began telling this parable: “A man had a fig tree which had been planted in his vineyard; and he came looking for fruit on it and did not find any.  And he said to the vineyard-keeper, ‘Behold, for three years I have come looking for fruit on this fig tree without finding any. Cut it down! Why does it even use up the ground?’  And he answered and said to him, ‘Let it alone, sir, for this year too, until I dig around it and put in fertilizer; and if it bears fruit next year, fine; but if not, cut it down.’”  Luke 13:6-9

Which is stated more succinctly here:

• Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.  Matthew 7:19

Very true, and indeed, the Word of God.

[Heb 13:8]

Just now, iamlamad said:

If you imagine you can sin and get away with it, fine. there is no need to continue our disagreement. As I have said, no one can con God and get away with it. We will reap exactly what we sow.  If you imagine you can sow unforgiveness and reap forgiveness, good luck!  I only hope, when you sin, you RUN to 1 John 1:9 and repent quickly! And I hope, when you stand praying, your forgive! It is really not difficult!

We don't get away with it iam, we are disciplined and sanctified through the power of the cross when we sin. Is it clicking yet?

[Gibbus]

9/23/2017 Purist Edition (Finding God's Code to Daniel's 70 Weeks)

(Comet 67p tied to 9/23/2017 Alignment ... ... ... ... maybe 12/21/2018 Too!)

Comet 67p and Jupiter due to Meet Up in 2018 youtu.be/e-0TG_XyDsM

(Back To Topic) (God's Cracking God's Code, for Daniel's 70 Weeks)

Daniel 9:26 = Zeitgeist = Joseph as a Picture of Jesus the Messiah for 430 Years/Days in Egypt or 62 Weeks (God States 62 Weeks)

Daniel 9:25 = Nehemiah's Wall (Yeshua Bar Yosef/Bar Jesus) to Jesus's Arrival in Jerusalem about 480 Years/Days from 480 B.C. or 69 Weeks (God States 69 Weeks)

Daniel 9:27 = Canaan Covenant (Melchizedek/Ascended Masters) (70x7) ... "One Week" is Beyond 70 Weeks" ... "Mist of the Week is within 69th to 70 Week or 7 Years" (God States "490 or 70 x 7" and God States "7 Years" ... this is the code)

(God does not Confirm the Covenant within the 70 Week Period, ONLY AFTER)

Following God's Code, we need to use the figure of "490" and "7" or the position is not Valid.  (When Jesus was Born, God confirmed the Covenant with the Star of Bethlehem .................. God made sure he did nothing during the 70Week/70 Years, that ended with the Temple's Destruction ....................... so when God talks about "One Week Confirmation", it is beyond the 70th Year or 9/23/2017).

"1290 and 1335" Statement for Seven Years, that is the total Length of 69th Week to 70 Week ............... 1290 Days from Flight 370 to 9/23/2017 is the 70 Weeks Complete.  A Complete statement = "Middle of the Week" Complete.

490 Statement for "One Week", 1290 - 1335 for 450 Days + 42 (42 Years/1260) = 490 for "God's Code = One Week Complete".

 

9/23/2017 to 12/21/2018 and then 42 years to Halley's Comet in 2060 A.D. (Issac Newton Prophecy)......................God's Code...........................God associates a "Week Period" and a "Day Period" for each of his statements about the 70x7 or 70 Weeks of Daniel...................when it comes to Daniel 9:27, we also have a "Week Period" and a "Day Period", only this time, it is to answer the Second Coming of Jesus.......................Only One Conclusion is Possible........................God says one HALF/MIDST/MIDDLE of "Seven Years" and God provides us with "1290 and 1335", we don't need to perform the work, the Sign from God of FLIGHT 370, answer the question for us .......................... then God says "One Week = 1260/42 Gentiles", because God reveals that after the 70 Weeks or 70 Years, just like "Mary Pregnancy/Jesus Birth" which was 70 years before the Temples Destruction..........................therefore only one Conclusion is Possible with God............................we must only Answer God with a "Week Period" and a "Day Period" to complete God's Code!

(the 2300 Days of Daniel is just Padding, you can add that to the beginning and end of the statement for May 21 to October 21, but the position is not significant because God only allows 1260/42 Years for the Gentile Discernment (before billions die), and that will BEGIN RIGHT NOW, RIGHT TODAY, ON 12/21/2018, EXACTLY AS ALL THE PROPHECIES PROCLAIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

(as it turns out, God assigned the Canaan Covenant (revealing of his mercies for purpose of discernment) to 40 years Exodus, and never changed the position ................. even Jesus was Crucified/Risen at the rough 40 year mark from the Temple Destruction .................... 42 Years turns out to the Position God uses, everything will be this year, so very soon)

Edited September 16, 2018 by Gibbus

[Gibbus]

37 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Another code, another false prediction. Why, why, why?

...and why are we posting videos in a non video area?

Completely Forgot, Thanks

Daniel 62 Week = Joseph as the "Substitute" for Body of Jesus (Representative)

Daniel 69 Week = Jesus in the Line of Joseph for Body of Jesus (Living Jesus)

Daniel "One Week Confirmation" = Joseph Revealed as the Body of Jesus (Sign of Divorce)

Each of these Declarations from God have one thing in Common, an "Appearance of Jesus" according to the terms of the Gospel at the time of Expression.  Each of these figures also have something else in Common: "A Week Declaration", and, "A Day Declaration"

490 Days (since 70x7 or One Week is outside of 70 Years)

7 Years (Middle of the Week, taken from here)

***God Later Reveals these Figures***

1260/42 years  (One Week for Gentiles)

7 Years (1290 and 1335) (Middle of Week, taken from here)

***

If 9/23/2017 is the 70th Year, and 1290 Days (half of 7) from Flight 370 a Sign from God ................... the argument is complete to 9/23/2017 ........................... now we take the the "Middle of the Week" from "1290 and 1335", minus the two figures, equals, 450 Days to the 1260/42 or One Week ............................ then all the language of Daniel 9:27 is Satisfied.  All Prophecies Completed to 2060 A.D. Issac Newton's Prophecy.

***

Finally, We have 490 or 450 Days + 42 years, (One Week) ... and 1290 Days, half of "1290 and 1335" for 7 Years to 9/23/2017 (Middle of the Week)

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62 Weeks or 434 Days = God answers with Jesus Christ

69 Weeks or 483 Days = God answers with Jesus Christ

One Week of Seven Years (outside of 70 or 70x7) or 490 Days = God answers with Jesus Christ

***

God's Code, is that the "Week" and "Day" declaration are used as literal answer for "Jesus Christ" ..................... today ........................... God already said "1260/42" is for the Gentiles, now ....................... everything will be resolved soon, and ...................... 12/21/2018 is very soon.

Edited September 16, 2018 by Gibbus

[other one]

****shakes head walks away****

[Gibbus]

7 hours ago, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira said:

You are judged by the Word of God.  (God is a title, the Word is God, God is the Word). The Word made flesh warned, saying: (Mat.12:36-37)

36 ... Every IDLE word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment.

37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils, speaking lies in  hypocrisy,  having their conscience seared with a hot iron.   

The time arrived in which not endure sound doctrine and following their lusts they turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned to the cunningly devised fables. 

 

"One Week to 1 A.D." Jesus confirmed the Covenant with the Wise Men, thats Seven Years

"Middle of the Week 6 B.C. Birth to 29 A.D." Jesus is Crucified the "Sacrifice and Oblation Ceased" = Jesus is 35 Years Old or half of 77 Years, the other half is 42 Years (1260)

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"One Week is 7 Years" = Relative to Jesus (2300), and figure God Gives is "1290 and 1335" with more detail

"Middle of the Week" = 1260/42 Years Gentile, from 77 years = 35 Years

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God has already acted this out with Jesus, so there has to be some association.  If the Association is Literal to Jesus, then "1260/42", was for Jesus Ministry in Days, but, "1260/42" is for Years since Jesus Lead the Gentiles (Apostle Paul) to the Temple's Destruction in Jerusalem for 40/42 Years after crucifixion ........................ God already performed the work in illustrating these values.

(Everything will be Resolved Soon, the Gospel doesn't officially use a number system when providing these values, like the Jewish Calendar/Mayan Calendar/Iching ................. God simply gives us these figures and commands us to keep watch ................... what Number System God uses is unclear, but we have the absolute association to Jesus, and various methods of calculation, all pointing to a 450 Day Delay from 9/23/2017 to 12/21/2018 for the 42 Gentile Year)

(We place the numbers God illustrated and Provides, the Number Systems are secondarily, however, their arguments do support the conclusion, but are in themselves not necessary, everything will be resolved soon)

(Jerusalem is not an obligation for Moses ................... Moses first obligation is to get a clear illustrated answer from God for the nations, in the presence of the people he chooses as witnesses, in the Andromeda Galaxy, that will be soon.  The rest is an issue of God's Mercies, and your willingness to cause yourselves suffering and pain, by not being faithful ................... so far the legal evidence points to calamity upwards of 80 to 90 percent of those genetic lines, and upwards of 20 to 30 percent for the general population not doing very well, so we'll have to see soon ....................... Jerusalem is at best a point of assessment, but dealing with those genetic lines, requires euthanasia only, and, the law affords that kind of work for your discernment)

Edited September 16, 2018 by Gibbus